wake up Swimmy here are your sleeping pills
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Hi
My current car is my last, a diesel automatic
Electric doesn’t figure in my plans.
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That was very much tongue in cheek I suspect, yet raised a few hackles 
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Pop groups ?
The price of a drink these days is more than enough
They won’t have any customers soon that is why so many pubs are closing down .
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Pubs are very much a thing of the past locally.
High end eateries, a few on the estates and a couple in town for meet ups before the clubs and that is that.
I think it’s reasonable for pubs and businesses which pay commercial rates of VAT at 20% on energy bills to ask for a temporary reduction in the rate if their industry sector is being badly hit by the rise in energy prices.
When you consider that when energy prices double or quadruple, then the amount of VAT they pay is going to double or quadruple too - and businesses do not even get the protection of a price cap to limit the price increases.
Domestic properties and schools, care homes, churches, charities and not-for-profit organisations already get a reduced VAT rate of 5% on energy bills.
I don’t think it’s unreasonable to temporarily reduce the commercial VAT rate for energy usage, while the energy costs are so ridiculously high.
The Government could reduce their VAT rate on energy to 5 or 10%, say, and temporarily further reduce the domestic rate or cut it to zero, and still be collecting the same amount of VAT on energy bills as they were before the energy costs spiralled out of control.
It doesn’t seem right that every time the price cap doubles, the Government will be collecting twice as much VAT.
The House of Commons Library Research calculated that last Winter, rising energy prices had increased the amount of VAT collected on energy bills by over £3 billion.
The Labour Party were suggesting then that the Chancellor should use that extra funding to pay for cutting domestic energy VAT rate to Zero during this period of high energy prices but the Tories wouldn’t agree to it.
Now that energy prices have risen even more this year, these VAT overpayments will have risen even more.
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I suppose their argument could be that they can use this windfall increase in revenue to direct additional support to those who need it, which would in effect reduce the amount paid by those people, which would be equivalent to a reduction in VAT.
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@Muddy , “pop groups”
Yeah, the majority of pubs in melton are closed during the day,
But open in the evenings till very late with pop groups and
Karioki,. The staff are to knackered to get up in the mornings ??
From the notice boards outside they dont sell beer but a
vast collection of mixes with rude names, and l suspect the
obligatory drug selection?? 
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@ Boot , Sorry l dont think its reasonable st all l
I think the energy companies should be taxed by an equal amount to the
proposed increases ?? This tax to be used to offset the increases to
food etc ?
The real problem lies with the lumping of all. sources of energy into one
group called energy and then putting that onto the ,world market ’ as if it
were one product, this system drags a product like gas which is cheap to
produce up into a higher price bracket than it would normally enjoy !
This system makes all products vulnerable to the manipulation we are
experiencing right now !!
We need to get away from the “market rules” philosophy ??
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Market Rules is exactly what the Tory party members voting for the new pm want.
@swimfeeders ,. I know it is!
We need a completely new political party??
I suggest the following list of ideas ??
1/ The teturn the fishing party ?
2/The cancel all Boris projects party ?
3/ The reduce the HOL & Whitehall party ?
Further suggestions are welcome ?? 
arent the energy companies middle men? the real rouges are the suppliers who extract the gas oil or coal in the first place. it must be those who are the rouges charging fortunes and then the supplies add their charges.
@Hedgehopper , Yeah, that s the problem, taxing them here will eventually
lead to them being unable to bid at the energy auctions , which will require us
to reduce our demand to zero or very near zero ?? Allthough this would
cause market forces to drop the price eventually, l doubt the consumer
would tolerate going without ??
Fraid lm running out of ideas now, Putin knew what he was doing ??
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Abandon net zero party…
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@Old Grey Fox, " abandon net zero party "
Yeah!! Missed that one !!
Anymore??what about,
‘Use the aircraft carriers to house migrants party’ ??
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Might as well as they’re not actually going anywhere 
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Row, row, row our fleet
Gently out to sea.
Scupper the whole bleeding lot,
And save us all moneeeee.
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