It has been noted on other threads that the US system of super-PACs (political funds with it seems no upper limit) are a major cause of politics just becoming about the money. That seems clear in the US where Trump pumped tens of millions into the campaign to replace Thomas Massie - one of the few republicans willing to be critical of Trump’s administration. Actually, from what I’ve seen, one of the few intelligent republicans.
Now in the UK we have Farage getting £5m from a private (not domiciled in the UK) donor. Ok, this is small beer compared to the money swilling around US fund raising. But it is a trend towards the US way of working - it was not a donation to a party, it was to an individual. It was attempting to side step the rules by donating before overseas donations are limited and before Farage became an MP (although he was head of the Reform Ltd party, so very much in politics). Farage is now flailing around making excuses and distractions.
Sad days on both sides of the Atlantic.
Let’s be fair about this, they’re all in it together…
And what about the scams with facemasks and other covid related equipment?
It does seem at times that they are all at it separately, if not together.
You note one think tank. These seem to be particularly dodgy and not just for under the counter donations. Too often a spokesperson from a think tank will pop up to offer an opinion on something or appear on Question Time. Who exactly are they speaking on behalf of? And if they are making donations - who actually is helping fund that politician? And for what?
I noted one headline that popped up when I Googled corrupt politicians.
And are we supposed to just believe everything that’s published by the Guardian and BBC is truthful?
As I recall, a few months ago there were resignations at the BBC because somebody cobbled together bits of video to make it look like Trump had said something he didn’t.
The media are as corrupt as the politicians.
Well, it is interesting to put those two sentences together. Let’s take the 2024 BBC problem with its Panorama programme about Trump. As you note, mistakes were made and this was (eventually) pointed out. This error was accepted by the BBC, even though the programme itself was made by a third party TV production company. The BBC apologised for this error and there were resignations. Somehow you equate this sequence (error, recognition, acceptance, apology, resignation) as the same as corrupt politicians. Are you sure your comparison is correct and valid?
It’s as valid as your smug condescending lefty BS.
Nope, actually the BBC showed quite a bit of integrity in that case. They admitted their mistake and got rid of the people responsible.
The BBC leadership crisis occurred after a 2024 Panorama documentary spliced together two parts of Donald Trump’s January 6, 2021, speech that were nearly an hour apart, creating the false impression that he was directly inciting the attack on the U.S. Capitol.
Resignations and Fallout
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Tim Davie: The Director-General of the BBC resigned, taking ultimate responsibility for the editorial lapse.
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Deborah Turness: The CEO of BBC News also stepped down amid the intense controversy.
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The Edit: The sequence combined Trump saying “we’re going to walk down to the Capitol” with “we fight like hell” from much later in the address, while omitting his explicit call for supporters to demonstrate peacefully.
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Apology and Legal Action: The BBC issued a formal apology acknowledging an “error of judgement,” though it rejected demands for multi-billion-dollar compensation, leading to subsequent legal battles.
Trump, on his first day in office for his second term, pardoned everyone involved in the insurrection including murderers and pedophiles.
President Joe Biden did issue a blanket pardon for everyone involved high-profile, preemptive group pardons to specific family members and prominent public figures on his final day in office on January 20, 2025.
Brothers James and Francis Biden, sister Valerie Biden Owens, and in-laws Sara Jones Biden and John Owens. Dr. Anthony Fauci and retired General Mark Milley. Over 5,000 FBI employees and roughly 140 prosecutors worked on the January 6 Capitol attack investigation.
Let’s see the math. Trump pardoned 1575 and Biden pardoned 5147. Yep, trump pardoned more👍
Trump is suing the BBC for $10 billion. It doesn’t look good for the BBC because they have admitted fault in the broadcast.
That will never go to trial because the BBC’s lawyers would be able to compel Trump to testify, and he can’t open his mouth without lying, in which case they could get him for perjury. If he tells the truth, he’d be admitting to crimes. Either way, he’d incriminate himself.
Also, Trump would need to prove that he was harmed in some way from the misleading edit, which he wasn’t in the least – certainly not $10 billion dollars worth.
When U.S. District Judge Roy K. Altman agreed that the BBC could audit Trump’s financial records to verify the alleged $10 billion loss, Trump legal team removed the claims of business and brand damage from his lawsuit. The rewritten complaint now focuses exclusively on abstract, non-financial “personal reputational harm.”
Trump is a convicted felon. He was found guilty of fraud in criminal and civil cases. He was also found to have been guilty of rape in a civil suit. The claim of “personal reputational harm” is hilarious.
You are only saying that because it was so very clear that your comparison was poor and you’d not noticed that until that was pointed out. There was nothing left-wing about my post, there was no BS at all in my post and it was not condescending so much as pointing out the obvious.
You forgot ‘smug’. ![]()
For the first time ever, and only because they’re terrified of going to court now they’ve been exposed as being just as corrupt as every other media outlet.
A bold claim. What, in reference to media outlets, is this corruption that you refer to?
The corruption of politicians is primarily about taking money and doing the bidding of those who gave them money. See Farage, millions in donations from crypto-billionaire and then Farage advocating for relaxing rules in the UK on crypto currencies. Donor, vested interest, money, politician promoted the vested interest. That is pretty clear.
However with media outlets it is less clear. Mostly - GBNews is of course an exception as it is majority owned by one person and the channel predominantly promotes the owners views or agenda. Same as for some newspapers - Mail, Times & Sun, etc. But other media outlets have different sorts of ownership - and different revenue sources (mostly advertising or in the case of the BBC, licences). So the donor - vested interest - donation aspect does not exist.
I’m guessing you think the BBC is “controlled” by someone or some group - and the corruption you refer to is the adapting of news stories to suit their agenda. Which (if it were true) would not really be corruption but more intentional misrepresentation (same as GBNews then). Unless you’ve some insight I’m missing.
Don’t waste time explaining anything to Lincoln, problems comprehend or retain the information. Because we all know the media apologizes and people resign when they are right. If it does involve or support the TDS it not true or can’t seem to find any information about it.