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@Percy_Vere ,. Bloody right too ! How can you work for two masters??
Itâs like being a double agent!! Only not so deadly ??
Donkeyman! 
Understood ⊠
I expect Boris is looking for some novichok right now !!
If one falls, they all fall !!
Donkeyman!
I donât suppose there is any point in mentioning that when Corbyn led the Labour party they were the party that wanted a kinder type of politics. All this shows is the hypocrisy of Labour who still havenât dealt with properly the anti-semitist elements of the party. Perhaps we should allow Labour their moment of success. Theyâve had so few lately.
it shows nothing of the sort the commission is independant it only had two Labour MPs on it as opposed to four /SNP he other member were not affiliated to any political party so no more excuses please this is sleaze on a large scale .
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It is a disaster for the Tories.
Well done to the bulk of most of the Torries who rebelled.
Boris had a 3 line whip on this, a huge rebellion made him back down.
It was a direct attack by Boris on the Standards Committee who are investigating him.
He lost, which shows Parliament still has some powers.
His days are now numbered as PM.
I think that some people canât see the wood for the trees. Granted it was an error of judgement , but in the timing only. The basic problem is the workings of this particular committee and it needs putting right⊠When a decision is made about an MPs guilt without him being consulted and without witness statements being read then something is seriously wrong.
I have no idea whether he is guilty of not but the system that deals with wayward MPs needs to be put right. As for being independent, how can a committee made up of MPs judging MPs be independent.
There will be one happy MP this morning, Claudia Webbe who has effectively been pushed off the front pages.
Apparently, this is the current composition of the Committee:
https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/290/committee-on-standards/membership/
Committee on Standards
Commons Select Committee
The Committee on Standards cannot take on complaints about Members of Parliament. Such complaints should be directed to the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards. It is chaired by Chris Bryant MP. You can follow the Committee on Twitter @HoCStandards
Membership
14 current committee members
Chris Bryant MP Labour Rhondda Chair Commons
Dr Arun Midha Lay Member
Mrs Jane Burgess Lay Member
Mr Paul Thorogood Lay Member
Mrs Rita Dexter Lay Member
Mrs Tammy Banks Lay Member
Dr Michael Maguire Lay Member
Mehmuda Mian Lay Member
Andy Carter MP Conservative Warrington South
Alberto Costa MP Conservative South Leicestershire
Allan Dorans MP Scottish National Party Ayr, Carrick and Cumnock
Mark Fletcher MP Conservative Bolsover
Yvonne Fovargue MP Labour Makerfield
Sir Bernard Jenkin MP Conservative
Lay members are members of the Committee on Standards who are not MPs but members of the public, chosen to provide an independent element in the House of Commonsâ standards system.
Lay members were first added to the Committee in 2012, initially with three lay members and 11 elected members; this was changed to equal numbers of each in 2016.
The lay members play a full role in the Committeeâs work, involved in both disciplinary cases and inquiries related to broader standards matters.
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@Rainmaker , l agree mostly Rainmaker, but can you explain why it is
necessary for there to be a lobby system at all ?
How does it add to the efficiency of government?
All it seems to do is to increase the likelihood of corruption occuring, as
seems to be the case !!
Surely there is nothing wrong with the the businesses concerned presenting
their own case before a parliamentary committee on their own behalf ??
Why should it be necessary for the business to employ the MP?
Donkeyman! 
Apologies for forgetting the Lay members, However the points I made still stand. The system is flawed, if members of the Committee will not take up evidence from the accused or the witnesses how can they possibly arrive at a fair decision and as I previously mentioned The biggest error was made by the government trying to change the rules at this time.
Had they done the right thing and tackled it a few months from now they might have got a great deal more cooperation
No Donkeyman I cant explain it and like you I think its unnecessary but I donât think it makes a lot of difference to Parliament what I think.
There seems to be plenty of evidence here:
https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/290/committee-on-standards/publications/
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I think that some people canât see the wood for the trees. Granted it was an error of judgement , but in the timing only. The basic problem is the workings of this particular committee and it needs putting right⊠When a decision is made about an MPs guilt without him being consulted and without witness statements being read then something is seriously wrong.
I have no idea whether he is guilty of not but the system that deals with wayward MPs needs to be put right. As for being independent, how can a committee made up of MPs judging MPs be independent.
There will be one happy MP this morning, Claudia Webbe who has effectively been pushed off the front pages.
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By design, I shouldnât wonder.
No sign of her doing the honourable thing and stepping down from her post, I suppose? She should be recalled and a by-election called.
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It definitely seems to me to be flawed and little more than a kangaroo court if the accused and witnesses (for both sides) are not allowed to be heard.
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Doesnât matter how long the report is If they created it without looking at the evidence. Pattersonâs complaint was that he sent them these witness statements but they were never read. He also said they never read his statements. Kathry Stone has also admitted that she had made up her mind he was guilty before he even provided the the statements.