Interesting.
You seem to be emotionally involved.
The way that Blair copulated with this little group of nations, it is almost impossible not to be emotional about the abusive self serving money grabbing egotist.
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This makes interesting reading …
Apart from Harbal, who sounds the closest to me in work experience you all sound incredibly cerebral and academic to me.
Harbal I know what you mean when you define working class …
As to me? I could have done better in life but had little ambition to motivate me …but because it never did, nor does now, I’ll never have a lifeplan till the day I die.
I got fed up of school and left voluntarily at 14, rather than wait till 16.
I even have my own sandwich toaster 
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@Baz46 Well explained Baz ! That’s exactly how l understood
the thread was meant to be ??
I also found it interesting !!
Donkeyman! 
Thanks DM, I recall you too were trade apprenticed and your industry as well as my own has been the victim of lack of apprenticeships. That’s not good for anyone or any trade.
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I’m convinced that everyone could have been better had the chance arisen AND said chance recognised at that time. Looking back at my so called career, with hindsight I know I could have progressed further. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but alas in realty we had to do what we could with what we had at the time.
But let’s remember though, that not everyone wanted to “progress further”. To many people if they had a job that they enjoyed and it paid sufficiently well then that is all they desired from life and as @Morticia said, there was never any ambition for any more.
As a case in point I had three sons that could have inherited my business when I retired but showed no interest in taking on the responsibility, so I just sold it off piecemeal and called it a day. A shame really but not everyone has it in them, nor does everyone want it to be! 
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@LongDriver , l found that the timing of my moves to other
Jobs turned out to be to my advantage !
My first move from the firm l did my apprenticeship with gave
me slightly more pay, but also gave me a lot of experience job
wise as well as abundant overtime and l was very happy there,
but p happened to see a job advertised in the newspaper which
was situated near Coventry, on attending an interview l found
this job needed experienced machine tool fitters and would pay
about double what l was getting in London with less overtime,
so for me it was a no brainer to make the move ??
My next move 7yrs later was to immigrate due to the union
activities of that time, this move was Moore difficult , but a couple of years later lheard that most machine tool companies
in UK were closing down and the car firms were also closing!
So it was fortunate for me l left UK when l did
I never realised how bad it was here till l returned about 5yrs ago
and saw the state the country was in ??
Donkeyman! 
@Barry,. Same story with me Barry, my lad didn’t want to work for me, so l got him an apprenticeship with one of my customers
as a toolmaker, he chucked it in in 6 months ??
Donkeyman!
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I should have taken up the entertainment industry when the opportunity blatantly stared me in the face. Instead, I took the ultra safe option and carried on working for the crown.
I had the height, the looks, the voice and musical skills as well as a well known bandleader trying to push me onwards, but as I had a family, I took the safe option and deserted the stage. Did I do the right thing? I’ll never know for certain, but at times even now, I do miss singing centre stage or leading my own band the way I used to do.
That’s a Sandwich Maker, this is a Sandwich Toaster (Due to my academic qualifications I have both )
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Nah, I’M a sandwich maker😉The heated device simply heat seals the bread and toasts it without getting any greasy crud inside my actual toaster👍
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My school was virtually a crammer for Oxford.If you weren’t in the top ten they showed no interest.So I had five years of doing as little as possible without getting noticed.My father had an electrician chum who needed an apprentice and after a few shocks,I managed to reach retirement.
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@ Long driver , Yeah l went through phase of singing the
Banana boat song on the Wallington public hall stage at half
time too LD !! 
Donkeyman! 
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I had no option so tend not to chew over the alternatives, wish the surname was Hobson, that would have completed the irony. 
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@spitfire , But you said your boss offeredmyou your own office and a
company car aSpitty ??
You chose not !!
Just saying 
Donkeyman!
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