Mystery deepens around Times story that claimed Boris Johnson planned to make girlfriend Carrie £100k chief of staff

Hi

I do not like Boris

I would venture to suggest that I have been closer to him in a work environment than many on this forum.

Yes he is a nightmare, but he was a better choice than Corbyn.

There is a difference between a nightmare and a disaster.

I am a Socialist, sorry Bread, get used to it.

There is a World of difference between my idea of Socialism and that of Corbyn and Co.

Even worse than that, I was also a Union Official, but never went on strike as I was in an Exempt Occupation.

Public Health and Public Safety, I worked but donated my income to Charity.

I am disgusted that Labour MPs will be on the picket lines this morning when all the strike is doing is punishing ordinary people and making their financial situation even worse.

I cannot condone that, it is back to the bad old days.

There are far more effective ways of annoying management than affecting the public.

Artangel has a point Omah, much as I dislike Boris he is not ruling my World and I certainly would not like him replaced by Labour as Starmer would be gone and Corbyn and Co would be back.

The Tories have some far better candidates than Boris to lead them

I don’t actually think you are a socialist. I think your someone who wants the most vulnerable and at a disadvantage to be treated better and more fairly, but that doesn’t mean your a socialist.

I would say you’re more centre right than socialist.

Omah … tell me what parliamentary code has been broken here ?

Apparently Boris asked if he could employ Carrie Johnson, he was advised not to and then didn’t. See how the left have created a huge fuss about nothing again.

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The OP’s finishing phrase :-

"It’s such a preposterous idea that it just has to be true … "

Says everything about the mindset!

(Expect the head flagger to flag any minute!)

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Artangel has made a fundamental attribution error - BJ does not rule my world either.

So does your response … :rofl:

According to The Daily Telegraph, Lord Geidt thinks that reports the PM tried to appoint his future wife to a plush taxpayer-funded government job should be looked into by his successor.

Downing Street denies the allegations. The PM has not yet replaced Geidt and has refused to commit to doing so.

Somehow, I don’t see any “successor” investigating allegations of nepotism … :man_shrugging:

If only Lord Geidt could be back in the EU … sigh …

Hi

Art does not often make fundamental errors, she is really very astute.

We are losing members, long standing ones, with whom you can have a discussion and learn things from.

I find this very disconcerting and a sad loss to this forum.

I miss my daily bollockings and rare mentions of praise from some older, very astute members.

Art, Morti, Ruthio, Ripple, Surfermom.etc.

I must admit that that my rare mentions of praise from them are more than a wish than a reality.

Hopefully they are coming back and making this forum what it used to be.

We also have newer Members who contribute the same, SIlver Tabby, Lion Queen etc.

Scary but fun.

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The point is that Johnson wanted to use his influence to get Carries’ snout in the trough and had to be dissuaded from doing it

So, no principles, promotes the chumocracy and prepared to dole out favours and taxpayers money to his bits in the side. And stupid enough to think he’ll always get away with it

The story is important because it shows clearly what an unprincipled idiot we have as PM

Who has to be stopped by his advisors from doing what would be judged clearly be wrong by any normal right thinking person with a conscience

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The Prime Minister asked if he could imply Carrie Johnson who at the time was a government advisor.

He was told he couldn’t so he didn’t.

Carrie Johnson also campaigned for Boris when he ran for London Mayor.

Since we don’t know what the details of the conversation was, between the Times & Downing Street, it appears that we have two options :-

  1. To Assume that Downing Street were saying that the story was a fabricated lie & that publishing it could lead to The Times being charged, legally.

  2. That the Times thought about the story & asked if it was true, then withdrew.

Guilty until proved innocent, yet again!

I cannot believe a Newpaper would back out of such a scoop, if it had a chance!

The decision to remove the story is understood to have been made by Tony Gallagher, the Times’ deputy editor, who was standing in while the editor, John Witherow, was on leave.

A News UK spokesperson did not respond to a request for comment on suggestions the company’s chief executive, Rebekah Brooks, was also involved in the discussions.

Guto Harri, the current Downing Street director of communications, was an adviser at News UK, the owner of the Times, between 2012 and 2015.

Contrary to online speculation, there is no super-injunction or specific legal issue preventing reporting of the story.

MailOnline published a rewritten version of the Times story on Saturday, only to also quietly delete it without explanation.

The story that the Times pulled was re-reporting an allegation that appeared in a critical biography of Carrie Johnson by the Tory donor and peer Lord Ashcroft. The original accusation remains available online as part of the serialisation of the book – which is still hosted on MailOnline.

In late 2017, civil servants at the Foreign Office advised Johnson to appoint a chief of staff. Installing somebody of the highest competence would, they believed, ease their collective post-Brexit burden. This suggestion seemed at first to fall on deaf ears.

But by the beginning of the following year, Johnson seemed keener on the plan. The person he had in mind for the plum, six-figure role? Carrie Symonds.

His allies were ‘aghast’, according to one source. She would have been out of her depth in such a senior post, they felt, with potentially disastrous consequences.

‘Everyone advised him not to do it,’ says a source. ‘They told him she had been over-promoted and that making her his chief of staff was ridiculous.’

By the spring of 2018, a small number of Johnson’s staff had become aware the couple were having an affair. Some were dismayed that he had betrayed his wife, Marina, whom they knew and liked. Others took the view that it was none of their business.

All now understood why Johnson had been so keen to hire Carrie as his chief of staff.

In late 2017, civil servants at the Foreign Office advised Johnson to appoint a chief of staff. Installing somebody of the highest competence would, they believed, ease their collective post-Brexit burden. This suggestion seemed at first to fall on deaf ears.”

Ah!

Now I understand!

But he still wanted to and had to be stopped.

It’s the hoping he’d get away with handing out the job to a woman he was having an affair with that’s offensive

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Loads of MPs employ family members, especially on the campaign trail.

I don’t know why Omah is getting so wound up about it :lol:

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How is it offensive ?

He didn’t employ her … how is not doing that so offensive ?

Look at Vaz and co and how they employ family members, its not unusual you know.

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It’s offensive because he wanted to use his power and influence to award a job to a woman he was having an affair with

Chumocracy at it’s best

He didn’t employ her because he was stopped, not because he had any understanding that it would be wrong to do so

But he only asked and then didn’t.

If he employed her then fair enough, but he didn’t do that

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But I say again, he only didn’t employ her because he was stopped

He wanted to and thought it would be alright to, or at least that he would get away with it

If they hadn’t stopped him, he would have employed her

A clear example of how arrogant he is and how he doesn’t understand, or doesn’t care, that it’s wrong to use his power and position to dole out largesse to his girlfriends and chums

He’s self-serving and amoral

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