What about healthcare? Do you need to prove your identity for healthcare?
âŠMy guess would be that they simply become included into the ever swelling ranks of the Socially ExcludedâŠ
You have a Medicare Card with your Medicare number you donât have to prove your ID just show your card.
It is a secondary document only worth 25 points toward the 100 points you need to prove your ID.
https://www.humanservices.gov.au/sites/default/files/medicare-card.jpg
A good thing. Something that we should emulate.
Wouldnât it be simpler, though, to have a general identification card that covers everything that genuine citizens are entitled to?
It could even include additional endorsements (on the same card) for driverâs licence, etc.
It gets worse there is a Centrelink number which is used for all social security payments such as dole, pension, tax relief part A and B.
I quote this number to get my free driving licence, car rego and concessions on telephone, electricity, water, gas, $2.50 transport etc and show this card to get concession entry/prices with public and private organisations. The number stays with you for life after 18 as does your tax file number.
https://www.humanservices.gov.au/sites/default/files/images/pcc-image-act.jpg
There is no stomach for an ID card in this country, Personally I am looking forward to the day everything is on my phone and I can stop carrying all these bloody cards.
The problem with one card is that some things are state issued for example Opal Card, Driving licence while some things are federally issued like Medicare, Pension, Centrelink
Our constitution was written to protect state rights.
Well, the first step would be to get everything on one card, for convenience, and the next would be to have all the information on your phone. However, problems may arise here. How secure is information on your phone, and what happens if it is lost, damaged or stolen?
I would still vote for IDs in the UK, and canât understand why the idea was voted down previously.
The problem is that people donât like the idea of all their personal information in one place it makes it a single target for hackers and a mine of information for an errant government.
It is getting to the stage where a photograph of a particular card kept on your phone will satisfy most people who need to see it (not the police because the law says you must carry your driving licence when driving).
OK, well that certainly makes sense.
Of course, in our case in the UK, I suspect that even if we did have ID many authorities wouldnât bother asking for them, perhaps especially the health service!
governments wonât give you all you need unless you can prove you are alive and registered - get real!
ID Cards are as old as Betamax videos. We are already well past the point where they would ever be used.
What we have now is RFID chips. They are in your bank cards and many of your devices (which you were probably unaware of). For example, every Kindle device comes with an RFID chip inside it identifying the device uniquely and thus identifying you as your purchasing or registration details will be forever linked to the device.
There will be RFID reading devices stationed all around the world in strategic places. Every time you pass through them or near them they will be activating the chip and logging it. Hence your movements are monitored everywhere.
You can buy RFID blocking wallets to protect your bank cards from being read which I recommend. You can open up your devices (like Kindles) and physically remove the RFID chip (very easy to do).
Technology has already advanced beyond this point. RFID chips are now in tiny pellets which can be inserted under the skin. Typically they are injected in the soft skin tissue between the thumb and index finger. Over 10,000 people are already trialling them. Ultimately they will want everyone to have this chip in their skin. Truly the mark of the beast.
Itâs simple to see how this stuff will be implemented. Just consider how âtheyâ make excuses to implement other things.
There will imo be 2 key ways they will get the public to accept being chipped like digs.
Firstly, they will engineer some disasters blaming terrorists. People will be appalled of course and the government will say that they canât control this influx of terrorists without having proper citizen ID controls.
Secondly, the younger generation will be extremely easy to dupe. They have already begun with contactless bank cards which we can just swipe quickly over the reader when we pay for stuff. Then theyâve got the whole Smart Phone thing going where you can pop up a barcode/Qcode on your phone to pay for stuff.
Kids love this stuff. Itâs cool, quick and hi-tech
Imagine the fun they will have/perceive when they get their hands chipped and can just wave their hands over a payment reader to pay for stuff. It will be like magic to them. At work, their secure office areas will have readers built into the doors. They will wave their hands and the door will magically open. All very Star Trek. The youngsters will lap up this 666 human bag and tagging before they realise what they have done. Once achieved, all privacy will be gone. RFID readers will become common place. You wonât be able to go anywhere without being scanned and IDâd multiple times wherever you go. Big Brother incarnate.
As a British Expat resident in Hungary, I have an ID card which is used instead of having to show my UK passport.
I also have an OAP card which allows me to travel free on public transport anywhere within the country.
In common with Hungarian citizens I have a TAJ card and number which entitles me for free medical treatment.
Despite a shortage of staff and funding, Hungarian hospitals are extremely good and unlike the UK you donât have to wait for weeks to see a doctor.
Hungary seems to be an attractive place to live, and they appear to have the common sense to ignore EU diktats regarding the admission of âeconomic migrantsâ. As an attractive and self-supporting potential migrant, Iâll put it on my list of possible emigration locations for when the UK goes tits-up!
Actually, we did enjoy our visit there a couple of years ago whilst on a Danube cruise.
Wonderful Brexiteer thinking, sod off and leave everybody else to sort out the mess that you have helped to create.
You can hardly blame the Brexiteers, because if I remember rightly the bloke that called the EU referendum was a Remainer!
And what did he do ⊠sod off and leave everyone else to sort out the mess he created!
I shouldnât take much notice of Purwell, ZsaZsa.
Hi
No Deal means the end of UK Taxation of Pensions.
It will mean you are paying twice, UK Tax and then the Tax of whichever Country you live in.
It also means the end of the EHICS Card, you will be paying for Health Insurance.
The only exceptions to this will be Ex Military and Government Employees.
That is a convention that will continue even in the event of a No Deal.
Suits me. I pay tax on my pensions and would welcome the extra money.
No problem. We always take out health insurance wherever we travel abroad.
Hi
What part of this do you not understand?
You will pay Tax here in the UK on your Pension.
You will then pay Tax on the Nett amount in the Country you are living in.
It is Double Taxation, a huge reduction in your living Standards.
You will also have to pay Full Medical Costs, the NHS will be paying Naff All.
You need to stop living in Fantasy Land.
After Brexit you will have no right to move to any EU Country at all.
Do my eyes deceive me? :shock:
You said:
Originally Posted by swimfeeders â
No Deal means the end of UK Taxation of Pensions.
I like the sound of that.
And I shall be living in the UK, so I shall not pay foreigners as well. 
You could mind your own business.