Moving abroad - What will happen after Brexit

What do you think will happen after Brexit regarding people wanting to move from UK and go live in an EU Country such as Spain.
How do you think that will pan out?
Will we be able to get our pensions over there, will we be able to get medical treatment etc

I believe people who already live there should be ok after Brexit but what about people who would like to move to warmer climates?

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Interestingly, a couple of our closest friends bought a small house in the Loire Valley several years ago which we have visited a few times.

They only use it as a holiday home and spend most of their time in their home in Huddersfield, although they have spent a great deal of time doing up their French house in various ways. Two wood-burning stoves being the latest addition.

They have also made some very good Frog-friends there!

I have asked them how they feel about Brexit, and whether they have made any enquiries about the future. They have not! In fact, they don’t seem very worried about it at all.

I suppose that, like me, they are completely unaffected by all the Project Fear predictions.

Certainly I will be interested to find out how Brexit will affect them as well as those from other parts of Europe living in Britain after March 2019.

Currency fluctuations affect ex pat pensioners badly. I knew a UK citizen living here who had to return to the UK permanently because their UK pension was insufficient to live on when our dollar was worth 70p (it is currently 54p). It must be very difficult for such people - I didn’t know this person very well he was a member of an advisory group I belonged to but he was too old for PR and not eligible for our social security.

I suppose it now depends on whether sterling takes a dive after March or whether that is already built into the present value.

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The UK is ending Free Movement, so that is also the end of Free Movement of UK Citizens to the EU.

I have no inside knowledge but I have assumed anyone already in other countries will be OK but new movers will have to do things legally with visas etc just like prior to us belonging to the eu. It may be harder for a while but once the government gets themselves into gear it’ll work as before. I lived next door to spanish people over here for work in the 60s if we managed that then I can’t see why we can’t do it now.

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If you live full time in the EU you will be fine to stay.

The EU will put on the same restrictions about UK Citizens moving to the EU as we do on EU Citizens moving to the UK.

Sounds fair to me.

The difference being that, although our government may nominally stop EU citizens moving here, in practice they are completely ineffective in doing so.

Well you should have ID cards then its not a problem

Same with the NHS if you had a card with all your details on then no problem

No card No treatment

It all works perfectly in our Police state here in Spain

I completely agree, although I wasn’t aware that Spain was a police state!

Compulsory ID cards was something mooted in the UK some time ago and was rejected for some reason. Personally, I cannot understand what the objection could be.

You probably have them without knowing it.

In the 1980s our PM floated the idea of an “Australia Card” as a form of ID. It was roundly condemned so now we have a Drivers Licence (even for non drivers) and a Tax File Number. Without both you can’t even open a bank account.

Yes, we have half-measures.

I have a driving licence, NI number (but no card), credit and debit cards, an NHS number (I think there is a card somewhere) and a passport.

All valid measures of identification.

However, whenever I’ve been to the doctor’s or hospital, none of these IDs are necessary.

I’m sure the same applies to all of our illegal locusts.

When I say Police state

Slight tongue in cheek but over here the slightest problem call the Police
even if you are doing building work and your neighbour does not like what you are doing call the police and put in a Denucia

Also the Police over here can put up road blocks if they are looking for something specific like drugs and when they do block the road there is always one Policeman with a pump action shotgun who will fire into your engine block to stop you if you don’t want to

Your ID cards and also the system we have for the NHS here which was going to be adopted by the British NHS you can blame that nice Shami Chakrabarti she blocked a great deal of it

Excellent!

Would it be possible to ask your police people if they could come to the UK, please.

We don’t have an effective police force any more.

How many would you like?

Another law over here you cannot contradict a police man or say anything against him or her thats a go to jail offence

All of them.

And in return, you can have our wonderful London Lord Mayor, who has been working overtime to deal with the hundreds of knife murders taking place within his area of responsibility!

I’m sure he would make enormous changes to the crime situation in Spain.

I should clarify that the Drivers Licence is the main form of ID, the Tax File Number is only needed for financial business such as opening a bank account.

We also have a plethora of other numbers such as Medicare No and Centrelink No but none of these have the importance of the Driver’s Licence the only thing of equal importance is a Passport.

No branding allowed?

I should point out that the Mayor of London is not the Lord Mayor, that is a totally different role.

I’m not sure driving licences can work as ID as many people don’t have a driving licence.

Oh dear! What happens to those who can’t drive AND have never applied for a passport? :lol: