Surely though Ralph, you would still use the massive amounts of fuel to transport everything you would need to build the base and assemble a craft? Including the workers.
And they complain now about wasting energy to keep warm here, and the temperature in Bangor rarely drops below a few degrees below freezing for a couple of months during the winter. Minus 248 degrees C will need one monster boiler…
Yes we’d still need to transport parts and humans but the main reason is oxygen, it’s a big part of rocket fuel.
The heavy part of the liquid hydrogen/liquid oxygen fuel mix is the oxygen, which is about 7/8ths of the fuel mass . Instead of launching all the fuel for maneuvering from Earth, we could launch eight times the hydrogen from Earth and mix it with the lunar oxygen, which also is useful for breathing, making water and assorted chemical processes.
We need all the Oxygen we can get for the next round of new covid, for the ventilators
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look at Delhi on a good day and they need a hell of a lot more oxygen too??
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Apparently there’s ice there and that will help them send space ships to Mars.So humanity will be able to “boldly go” and exploit the rest of the galaxy.
I’d quite like my moonbase apartment set up in a 70s style. It would suit me very well!
I wonder how long would be before Amazon get a foot in the door, or should I say hatch?
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The living areas seem stylish and functional:
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I couldn’t have put it better myself Omah!!
UFO box set on the Christmas list 
We had best not fool ourselves Ralph, the human race is going nowhere…
I suspect all this new found interest in living on the moon has more of a strategic purpose than a scientific one. It’s only taken a few million years for us to project a dustbin full of electronic bits and pieces and crash land it on Mars. Forget about sending anything alive up there, especially a human.
When whoever or whatever it was that dumped humans on this water and tree covered rock whizzing around the sun, they knew exactly what they were doing…We were surrounded by such an inhospitable atmosphere that stretched for billions of light years that there is no way in or out…
I can understand why we do it. Humans, especially blokes (women aren’t really built for it) have a passion for discovering the undiscovered…And we’ve discovered most of the stuff here so lets branch out…I know! The Moon!
It was Antarctica a while back and look how we have utilized our knowledge of those icey wastelands…We can frighten people to death while making lots of money with tales of rising sea levels and diminishing Ice flows…And it’s somewhere that nobody goes, so can’t prove otherwise.
That of course is the gorgeous Gabrielle Drake and sister of the talented Nick.
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It is indeed although I confess I hadn’t heard of Nick Drake until now.
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I see they have some space-age Portaloos in the plans.
Look up “Five leaves left”
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Yup… I’ve done just that and had a quick listen, mellow, very mellow.
Nice one Spitty, I’ll give it a proper listen on Sunday at leisure over a glass of something 
How come, back in 69, the Yanks got to the moon in 3 days, the Japanese Moon Sniper launched a few hours ago ain’t goin to get the till February??
I’ve opened up a thread for any discussion of Nick Drake:
all this is amazing stuff, but if we are inventing a cheap fuel for propulsion and or heating could they drop some off in Doncaster? cause its gonna get cold pretty soon…
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