Matt Hancocks Affair

Someone who wanted him gone. The Cummings comments clearly put him on the exit chute but they needed a stronger excuse than a former advisor. They have dirt on everyone do they not? Isn’t that what whips use to push through the party line?

What were those reasons in your opinion?

If it was to expose him as a hypocrite for breaking his own guidance, then one has to wonder why someone held onto this video for over a month (the “event” took place some time in May) instead of getting it out there immediately “in the public interest”.

As an aside, it seems that Hancock and Gina have left their partners and set up house together.

Unsure where the info about a smoke detector comes from, but some products can look like detectors to hide their purpose. Nothing unusual about that.

I never knew that they held onto the camera footage for over a month…

Have no idea why they did that.

I was under the belief that the footage was released to the press straight away,…you never know what to believe, but obviously there is no unbelieving that footage.

Obviously someone who wanted him gone.

Sending a copy of it to the chief whip or some other office would have been equally effective since, once aware of it, Hancock would have known the writing was on the wall and might have been able to resign without it ever coming out in public.

Money has most likely changed hands on this.

True.

What were the “right reasons” you mentioned earlier?

I know all about hidden cameras, again how do we know the information about the smoke detector is true.

Hidden cameras come in all sorts of objects…

I am very aware of potential hidden cameras, seen them a lot in the care field…
Watched a lot of footage caught on camera, abuse of the elderly .
Also in residential kitchens.( care homes)

I believe they are more widespread nowadays…

I agree with all of this. No idea where the smoke detector info came from, nor indeed whether it’s really relevant unless someone is suggesting a covert operation which begs other somewhat obvious questions.

I suspect that the footage comes from the system already legitimately installed.

In this case…the right reason, being caught for the good…not for him…but uncovering his “ deceit “ … just because he is is a “ politician “ doesn’t excuse his behaviour…

It needed to be highlighted .which it was, therefore those were the consequences.

Sorry edited my post.

Yes, l know that but wasn’t this a secret camera located within the smoke alarm?
It seems the footage of the security recording was filmed onto a mobile phone and then forwarded to the Sun newspaper.

Are you referring to his adulterous deceit, or the breaking of his own covid rules?

If the latter, then the argument (put forward by the powers that be) is that since they were in work and taking part in a meeting, then the rules don’t apply in the same way. However, there is a somewhat obvious question as to whether nipping off to a cupboard for a quick fumble is something that is legitimate government business;-)

People should be told that cameras are filming them. I thought there was some law about informing people but maybe it doesn’t exist. I do know that there was a law about voice recordings eg. of phone calls. Of course these days we don’t know who is watching or listening. smartphones / alexa / a hacker…etc.

It’s totally underhand Pauline. What next? Secret cameras in the toilet? How far do they go?

No idea. Have you got a link to where that was suggested?

It seems remarkably prescient for whoever put it there that this was the best place to spy on him.

I can easily imagine that the footage could have been taken from someone taking a phone video of the bona fide monitor.

Am pretty certain that most people are aware of surveillance in their places of work as a matter of course. I was (in schools) without having to be told.

Both…he was uncovered…says it all on the footage…

His private life his own business…he brought it into a government building…

Don’t bring personal affairs to work, imo, he should have had self control and kept their groping each other…to their own private residence.

OK.

Do you honestly think they would have been able to carry out their little tete a tetes in their own homes, or in some little bedsit somewhere without the press getting wind?

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Not really interested in that.

They were caught red handed…they were sitting targets, just waiting for the right time for someone to expose their little secret.

They have been exposed…

Labour has repeated its point that the PM should have sacked Hancock immediately after video footage emerged of him kissing an aide in his ministerial office in a breach of coronavirus restrictions.

The prime minister has a “very dangerous blind spot” over issues of integrity and conduct in government ministers’ public life, shadow housing secretary Lucy Powell said in an interview for the Labour party with Trevor Phillips on sky.

“I’m afraid it feels to me like the prime minister has a very dangerous blind spot when it comes to issues of integrity and conduct in public life. And that’s a really big problem,” Powell said.

Doubts that PM will last until next election.

OK. Was simply responding to your point: