I was amused by a comment on Twitter which said that if he got a decent haircut and got rid of his beard, he may have had a better chance of getting a girlfriend.
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I find that infinitely sad, not amusing, sorry.
Tend to agree. If heād spent a bit more time trying to ascertain what others might feel desirable, instead of frenziedly masturbating himself into becoming a sociopathic outcast and mixing with others of his ilk, he may well not have ended up being such an introspective self piteous and ultimately hateworthy murderous cnut.
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well I suppose there is still such a lot of information we may never ascertain about this poor deluded fellow - having once worked in mental health services in UK I would imagine looking at his childhood and upbringing we would find many clues to his eventual adult personality. Not excusing just surmising?
But please never relaxed gun laws like USA - they are in a mess with them and I doubt it will ever be remedied. Oz had a gun amnesty many years ago and thank god for that - farmers yes always they do need them and 99% of the time responsible people. However the suicide incidence in Oz is highest in remote rural farmers [male] who go away in the evening from their families and shoot themselves down by the creek. I have been out on shooting trips but could never be persuaded to use one - out killing kangaroos for breakfast next morning - but these were on isolated properties sometimes of 130,00 acres - they must have been able to identify as farming is my guess.
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My view of things.
Handguns are banned here in the UK, with certain exceptions.
Those exceptions are minimal and very closely monitored.
There remains a need for them and legal handguns are not a problem.
Every slaughterhouse can have them, simply to protect the Public.
Shotguns are part of rural life and clay pigeon shooting is a big sport.
A mistake was made in this instance, returning his shotgun.
We concentrate more on illegal weapons, which ids the correct thing to do.
Loads on here complaining about the Tax you pay, it is your choice, you accept the risk.
Many years ago I lived very close to Judd.
The Beaumont Arms, Kirkheaton.
We had firearms, nobody used them against humans, we got the cartridges free for the wood pigeons.
There where arguments, but nobody used a gun to sort them, neither did we use knives.
Even if you lost the fisticuffs, you had proved your point.
Hurting women and kids was a complete No No.
I think I agree with that comment actually. He looked like a decent enough chap who just needed a visit to a good barber/hairdresser.
Ah, the good old days of civlisation.
Iām sure that many country areas of the UK are still quite like that, or Iād like to think so, but our inner cities are places that Iād prefer not to set foot in these days if I didnāt have to.
still far safer than USA but
Iām a licenses gun owner and so is Mrs Bread. We have Beretta shotguns in the gun safe in our house and use them for clay pigeon shooting. Like everything, a gun, a car, a knife etc in the wrong hands always leads to trouble.
I think people who have shotguns will be very reluctant to report mental health issues to a doctor. The reason is (and Iāve seen this myself) that when you sit in front of the GP at an appointment and he pulls up your medical records it has in big letters āLICENSED SHOTGUN HOLDERā on the screen. The Dr can then inform the police and send them round to have your guns removed if he suspects any mental illness (from depression and anxiety all the way through to suicide etc). This deters a lot of licensed gun holders to go to the doctors in the first place becuase having you guns removed is like having your hobby stopped or your car confiscated to a lot of people.
What we need is a system within the shotgun community where licensed holders can store hand over their firearms to gun clubs temporarily at their request and a transfer certificate issued. They can get the guns back whenever they want provided the gun shop people are satisfied they are OK to do so. They should be then be free to talk to their GP.
I think that could stop some disasters from happening (especially suicides) but other people like the guy recently, there is nothing you can do. If he didnāt have a gun he would have used a knife or a machete etc - you canāt stop nutters like that or reason with them. They wonāt be satisfied until they have murderd and committed suicide. The big mistake here was returning his shotgun license after he had committed a violent offence.
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Suggest that is should be mandatory to store firearms used for pastimes.
Also suggest that those who then wish to use them have proof of why they need to take them out and how long they will be keeping them. Eg Letter/certificate from event organiser, or something like that. No need to provide proof that the weapon will be secured safely at home when out of āpermanentā storage for a day or two, since Iām guessing (please advise) that that would be part of the criteria of being issued with a licence anyway.
We have our guns inspected by the police in our house. They are in a safe, bolted to the floor and the wall in a wardrobe and have 2 locks on the door. The keys are kept in a separate safe with a numeric lock on it and the ammo in another locked safe. This was deemed āadequateā by the police so we are OK as far as using and storing go.
The crazy thing is that I can order 1000 or so shotgun cartridges and have them delivered by courier to my house, then if Iām not in they can be left on the doorstep - crazy huh ?
As we are moving house we have had to pre-warn the police of the move and where the new safe will be located etc. It canāt just be anywhere like a shed or garage, there are window locks, door locks etc that need to be inspected to make sure that nobody can steal them easily.
Getting a license is quite tricky - depending on the council issuing them it can take up to 2 years. When applying for a license, GPās are consulted regrading mental health issues / depression etc and its them who recommend whether a license should be granted or not. Unfortunately, the more āliberalā GPās allow people (probably like this guy in Plymouth) to be allowed his license back. So I would say we should tighten up on GPās guidelines on licenses and also make sure people who hold licenses have a test every 5 years or so. I was questioned on a period of depression I had that showed up on my medical records from about 10 years previous. I had to get a letter of consent from my GP in order to get the license, so no big deal for me but GPs who donāt really know their patients they could make a wrong decision very easily.
As for using guns then the event needs to be authorised, you canāt just use a gun anywhere. We go to Fennes Gun Club for our clay shooting, but with a farmers permission you can shoot on farmland wherever you like.
Itās very well controlled I think.
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Hope you donāt mind me saying, but its a hell of a lot of trouble to go just for being allowed to shoot a few flying saucers now and again, donāt you think?
Yeah it is a lot of faffing about but its great fun 
Iāve never shot a shotgun, but I think it would be interesting and also quite different to shooting a rifle. There was never much of a kick from the .22 small-bore rifle, and even the SLR I shot once or twice in the RAF wasnāt too hard on the shoulder. I suspect that a shotgun might have more of a kick back though.
Try a shotgun with a 28 gauge cartridge - it also gets you in the cheek if your not careful.
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JBR, go to the Cheshire Show, a lovely day out , not too far away from you and a cheap go, with instruction, at clay pigeon.
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