Good Morning Dachs…
The sales of all new ICE engined vehicles in the UK will be illegal in 2030…
Although the ban won’t affect me because the three year old diesel engined vehicle I purchased last year will hopefully last me until I no longer drive.
But anyone wishing to buy a new vehicle after 2030 (and there are lots of people who buy new, run them for three years and purchase another new vehicle) will have to buy Electric.
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they might ban diesel for private use before then
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Good point Bruce, but people had a choice whether to buy VHS or Betamax, they chose VHS, or the people who produced VHS did. They flooded the market with VHS machines even though I heard that Betamax were a better operating system. It’s not always about which is best. People are manipulated by the establishment, and in some cases, by the manufacturers to buy a particular Item.
The diamond tooling company where I worked for 22 years eventually closed down. Not because our product wasn’t good, it was because we were undercut by the Japanese who offered our main customers free diamond tooling for a period of time. So we lost orders and were unable to carry on, being a small company we couldn’t afford to pay for staff or premises.
The Japanese were eventually shafted themselves by the Americans who bought out the remaining sites of the company I worked for…I kept in touch with some of the lads who worked in Plymouth (one of the companies who got our remaining customers, and who I spent six months with while transferring the Doncaster work) they later were closed down by the (spit) Americans who took all our business back to America…
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The establishment have the best salespeople in the world, the MSM and also the education system, so kids are fed all the propaganda by lefty teachers, and the BBC (David spit Attenborough) about the damage humans and their mothers and fathers are doing and have done to the planet. They teach them about deforestation and rising sea levels, and melting ice at the poles…And how they must wash their clothes in 15 degrees C or turn down their heat pumps a couple of degrees to save energy, because the government of the day made a proper mess of the national grid with unreliable energy production and blamed it on us for using too much. . And heaven forbid anyone who eats meat, smokes or drives a diesel or petrol engined vehicle…
Eventually everyone will have an EV, smartphone, and be connected, so the establishment can carry on programming them, and watching their every move, and all the old sensible people who were taught proper science and didn’t need a phone or a computer to drive their car will have died out, and these overqualified know it alls will be waiting for instructions from the government of the day while sat at home waiting for Amazon to deliver a new boxed set of nonsense…That’s the rich ones living off their parents inheritance of course.
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Yes Annie, we seem to be controlled by people who ban things if it goes against their agenda.
You can be prosecuted and sent to prison for just thinking stuff…While rapists and murderers are released into the community…
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- 2035: The sale of new petrol, diesel, and hybrid cars will be prohibited. All new cars sold must be zero-emission vehicles (like EVs or hydrogen cars).
- 2030: This was the original deadline before it was moved to 2035.
It’s been shifted to 2035 now.
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Obviously it is impossible its not propaganda and impossible that as de facto custodians of the earth the human race is actively trashing the place for future generations. Quite impossible even though scale of the deception is enormous, involving as it does scientists, academics, educationists, civil servants … here and across all countries. A huge, staggering scale of effort - but all a lie. It is much more likely that some bloke in some place in the north of England has gone and found the true state of things.
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so let those with too much money easily parted buy and test the tech and the rest of us can go ahead when they fix all the bugs and efficiency issues. We shouldn’t be forced into it by a certain date before the tech is ready to roll out, otherwise you’re just creating heaps of landfill. They came up with this stupid date as if it’s going to make much difference to the planet if we continue to use petrol for another ten years while they sort and refine a usable model.
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It is unclear how the deadline year was determined - most likely it was set a while back when 2030 seemed a long time away. The logic most likely was that petrol & diesel engines are polluting (bad for our health and bad for carbon release) so keeping adding more and more polluting vehicles needs to stop. The next bit of thinking is how soon - switching production is not easy and setting up infrastructure is not easy - so maybe 10 years away. But of course ten years comes around quite quickly. Be certain that the next 5 years will fly by and the 2035 delayed date will suddenly look much too near.
The question then is - how long can we kick this issue down the road? There are 34 million vehicles in the UK. 2.5kg of CO2 is released for every litre of fuel burnt. These millions of vehicles use 47 billion litres of oil & diesel each year. That is a lot of CO2. Oh, multiply that by ten as you are suggesting that a ten year delay is no problem.
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BOTH political camps do this but they get a pass from their side .
Edit , let me add it goes without saying certain things must be banned but depending on what it is both sides take issue .
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Sorry Foxy, but I need to take you up on this. Teachers follow curriculum/specification guidelines. They don’t really have as much flexibility as you might think.
I do know, from experience, that textbooks and recommended published extracts do, all too often, express an opinion which students are meant to agree to if they are to be marked favourably.
So, please, let’s not put the blame onto teachers. They are just following orders, and have to do so if they are to keep their jobs.
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Betamax was a better system but it was Sony that invented the Betamax who had/have economic dominance in dominance in the electronics industry so it was just the popularity and being first that kept VHS as THE system.
That is free market economics which is why I can buy a pedestal fan for less than $20 when a few decades ago I paid a lot more for an Australian made model and my previous Westinghouse Freezer was made in Orange but my current one was made in China…
Countries have to decide what they are good at and pursue that niche.
As far as EVs are concerned who knows what they will end up looking like? What we have now will undoubtedly be refined. It is not something that will concern you or I, our diesels will see us out but one thing you can be sure of is that any problems will be sorted out and our children/grandchildren will wonder what the fuss was about.
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Which geezers are sorting all this out? 
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Engineers
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That’s reassuring.
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C’est moi ??
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It was the rental companies that set the trend regarding Betamax and VHS. Many people rented and many of the the companies were under the umbrella of Thorn. Thorn went with VHS and that’s why VHS was always going to be more popular.
That’s not to say that Betamax machines were dogs. They worked just as well as VHS machines. I think one factor that set the choice was that the video heads in early Sony video recorders tended to wear out more quickly than the heads in VHS recorders. The reason being that, on fast forward and rewind, the tape stayed in contact with the spinning head. A bit of an abrasive situation. With VHS, the tape unthreaded from the head during fast forward and rewind (and the head stopped spinning).
Had it not been for the video head factor, big companies like Thorn might have gone in the Betamax direction. Who knows? Later Betamax machines overcame this and many became super-slimline desirable shapes under names like Toshiba that equalled the performance of VHS machines. A minority compared to VHS but I certainly serviced many of them.
One other factor worth a mention is the ease of changing a VHS video head compared to that of Betamax. VHS screwed firmly onto a base and no room for error. Betamax heads had to be adjusted for concentricity on the base. There was room for adjustment that could only be set up with and eccentricity metre before tightening down.
In the end all video head could be (and were) worn out because of cleaning tapes. Heads worn out because they had been cleaned to death.
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