I told you EV's were Rubbish

Surely if you are stationary you are not using the battery? In theory at least moving a car a given distance uses the same energy at whatever speed you do it, in fact in a traffic jam the wind resistance that I ignored is considerably less so the battery should last longer?

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an EV just doesn’t stop if the battery is low, you get plenty of warning well before you would run out of charge, the car even reduces power and shuts off unnecessary power drain like air con for example, the car will even find your nearest charge point, if you did run out of charge the breakdown companies have mobile chargers that can give you enough charge to get to a charging station, I’ve never heard of hybrids exploding, scaremongering methinks…

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You can get “Range Anxiety” in a petrol car if the low fuel light comes on and you have forgotten your wallet!

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I had my Misubishi Starwagon from new for 17 years, it was only when I was getting ready to sell it that I discovered it had a low fuel warning light. I had never seen it before and had to look in the hand book to see what the red light was for.

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I see my light on occasions but then I do like living on the edge, I don’t put our bins out until the day of collection!!

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They don’t have hooters, just a speaker the shouts, “Fore!”

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Usually you aren’t stationary but moving v slowly for what can be hours. Some sections of motorway no longer have a hard shoulder. We have so much congestion here now Bruce, you would not recognise the road system - there are roadworks everywhere.

The other thing is that if drive infrequently you lose power and the battery can degrade. They recommend storage in a garage if you don’t use it often.

I’m not against new technology but it does seem they are pushing it out to test on the public without sufficient resolution of glitches.

My main concern with EVs and the rollout of new tech that uses lithium is the devastating effect on nature if we continue to mine as we do, which is ironic given that we are doing this to save nature.

Until they decide on the best use of technological advances, in smaller countries like the UK they should invest heavily in public transport systems and make them cheap accessible and easy to use so that people don’t need to use cars so much. (nb. I don’t mean wasting money on lavish HS2 type projects which serve only a few)

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Plenty if info on the internet about lithium battery fires Primus.
lithium Fires

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Bit of a joke here Bruce. We don’t have power poles anymore, only out in the country to supply a remote farm. It seems like an awful lot of trouble and expense, not to mention the miles of copper cable and associated electronics to install all of the chargers. Of course, the criminally minded among us will leave them alone, won’t they?
The middle of nowhere could be anywhere away from your home when you break down on a stormy night in the dark. The only course of action with an electric vehicle would be to call out the AA who will come out with a portable diesel generator and put some charge in yer battery.

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Perhaps not the main drive battery, but the 12 volt battery will be powering lights, heater/demister, wipers, and some electronics needed to drive the main motor…Computer etc…
Once that goes flat you are dead in the water…
Most hybrids only have a range of 30 - 40 miles on electric alone, so the petrol engine will be required, that’s if it will start.
And apparently, hybrids are going the same way as petrol and diesel after 2030…
So a full electric vehicle will be needed…And the price of those is totally unaffordable by most.

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We will all just buy Chinese electric cars.

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You could be right Lincs…
How come Biden placed 100% tariffs on Chinese EV’s and nobody raised an eyebrow…
But when Trump did it…All hell broke loose?

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I thought labour had a policy to install miles of power poles across the country

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Not heard that one Annie, but it doesn’t surprise me.
The amount of waste that chasing net zero has produced is off the scale…
How can this be good for the climate?

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The ones I’m aware of are mostly 132 kW/400 kW

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This was on the news a few months ago. The home secretary was defending the policy against so called NIMBYs - people who didn’t want our beautiful countryside blighted by miles of overhead power cables.

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Most of the residential homes are under ground. Even those I have dealt with have been 11 kV industrial sites.

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It really does depend on the area

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Biden was perhaps thinking about the story of US television manufacturing. When I first went to the US in 1990 I knew nothing about the high tariffs that were in place since the 70/80’s against imported (mainly Japanese) electronic equipment. So I was astonished to find the biggest, ugliest chrome button and no remote in my hotel bedroom. This was not the hotel chain being cheap. This was state of tech in late 80’s in the US. That is, decades being Japan in terms of technology and cost to produce. When the protection tariffs were removed the US television manufacturing industry disappeared within a few years.
It seems Biden was trying to gain the US car industry a few years of protection to invest and catch up. Otherwise it would face the same future as the TV industry. My guess is the US automobile companies have not done that and simply kept making petrol cars, trucks and SUVs.

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Here due to hurricanes well none while I have lived here but in time a MONSTER will hit they are putting more and more cables under ground and though few things are done correctly here must say it has been painless as not once has power gone out .

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