I told you EV's were Rubbish

Very optimistic Dachs.

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An unpopular and ignored truth about green energy.

According to AI…
Wind Turbines

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Is it true though? Just because one woman says so doesn’t make it true. She could work for Exxon for all we know.

Australia doesn’t use children to mine and refine lithium or cobalt nor does it pollute its rivers.

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She obviously has facts and evidence to back up her assertions Bruce.

Just a quick google came up with this Bruce…

Cobalt Mining

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Who is she? the original video give absolutely no details. She also gives a few bits of obviously false evidence the rest is unsupported by any references. It is pure hearsay I am afraid. The talk appears on a conservative business Youtube site. The whole of her evidence is suspect to say the least, just background noise.

The solution - don’t buy your lithium from the Congo, buy it from Australia - problem solved.

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I had a very good friend die of cobalt poisoning.
He worked in the press shop next to the machine shop where I worked producing diamond tooling.
Cobalt was a major addition to the diamond wheels that were formed and pressed in the next room to me.
It was so serious that we all had to undergo tests for cobalt poisoning when it was discovered that once ingested, cobalt never leaves the body.
Another colleague died of prostate cancer just after the company closed and was linked to the cobalt.

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Indeed. Why should cost degression not set in?

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Better to challenge her assertions than challenge her. Does it matter who she is?
Is she right though…Apparently AI accepts the damage that cobalt mining does, so isn’t that cause to be concerned?
People are quick to point out the damage to the environment that coal mining and oil and gas drilling does to the environment.
‘Out of sight, out of mind’ It’s okay as long as it’s far away from our world…

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That’s true. I have a hybrid car, too, and must say that this is not fully technically developed and a price to be paid.

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Not many things go down in price Dachs.

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Sure but in the automotive industry economies of scale are an important factor. Prices have already gone down.

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Here they are legal as are electric bicycles but they must have blinkers and lights even , scooters also legal and you see those all over yet not golf carts .

Google gives you the accepted agenda first, but If you dive a little deeper you can get realistic reviews of green energy that they don’t want you to know.
https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/renewable/wind-turbines-and-solar-panels-are-aging-prematurely/

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Because there is a lithium shortage coming and China controls most of the inputs we need.

You can’t extract it as fast as the demand to change to lithium-powered products.

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Good point, Annie, there may be a medium-term shortage by 2030 which might prevent a decrease in car prices if parameters don’t change. They will change, though, with all lithium-producing countries raising their lithium output, several countries testing new ways of lithium production, with using new batteries needing no or less lithium. And, most importantly, such a shortage may only be noticeable if there’s a greater demand for EVs in the near future which is vehemently denied by EV-sceptics like Foxy @OldGreyFox. You can’t have it both ways.

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I admit that my efforts to instigate astral projections so as to obviate the need for vehicular travel hasn’t been quite as successful as I’d have liked.

So, instead, I shall start working on my quantum leap machine.

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Maybe start slightly less ambitious with a quantum baby step machine, then work up to a leap.

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Indeed. From tiny acorns mighty salads (preferably with tahini in them) do grow.

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Nice one Rachel…
Fuel Duty

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Excellent. A fool and our (taxpayers’) money are soon parted.

:wink:

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