Way, Way back when I was but a lil tacker my Granmama would make Shepherd’s Pie on Monday.
Roast Lamb was Sunday tea, the left over Lamb was then put through a manual mincer.
Veg were added, plenty of tomato sauce. Topped with mash potato.
This is a true Shepherd’s Pie
Technically, only if your grandmother was a shepherd or making a pie for one.
Anyway, are you saying that only pies made from leftover lamb after a Sunday roast can be classified as authentic Shepherd’s ones?
I am saying that, yes.
As a way to vary the meals, and reduce food waste, the left-over roast lamb was used to make Sheperd’s Pie.
How about if I buy some lamb pieces or mince, with the sole intention of throwing it away. Then, if I use it in a pie then I’ll have reduced wastage.
Naturally, I’ll accidentally leave it in the oven while I just happen to cook something else in there, so as to reinforce the point that my intentions were never to use it in its “bare” form.
Will that suffice?
My Mum did a similar thing but now it is a dish people eat because they like it, so buy the meat with the intention of turning it into a Shepherd’s Pie. Still made in the same way as the wartime waste-saving recipe I suppose.
I don’t know if Shepherd’s eat it. Need to send in a Shepherd Spy to see if they do. ![]()
Quorn mince is a good replacement padded out with lentils and carrots.
Yep, as long as you’re prepared to accept it for what it is Quorn mince is very acceptable, for a number of recipes.
I’ve always got some in the freezer!
I’ve always wondered why it is that Sheperd’s pie made by sheperds for sheperds and is made with lamb
But
Cottage pie is made with beef … should it not be Cow pie or Herd pie … why is it called Cottage pie ?
I don’t mean to sound pedantic.
Because, oh light of my life, the name derives from poor people who lived in cottages who made if from leftover meats (sometimes including sheep/lamb). It’s only become to mean that beef is the filling in recent times.
Absolutely not!
Cow pie is a different thing entirely, much favoured by Desperate Dan…
As for stargazy pie, an entirely different kettle of fish!
I rather like haslet … which is nothing like a cottage or a sheperd or a cow pie.
Hmm …I could just scoff some now. I’ve never made it though.
I’d not heard of haslet - had to look it up. I found it was a minced pork meatloaf. Often served cold. Now my meatloaf is always a mix of beef mince and pork mince - delicious.
But this is a thread about pies. As I live in France, I have a longing for pies and now its winter will make a pie every so often. But they are simply not part of French cooking - not pies topped with potatoes or pies topped with pastry. Pastry is used (feuillete) but most often as a base rather than a topping, and potatoes mixed in are used (parmentier) rather than creating a pie. Personally I prefer a pastry topped minced beef & carrot pie - served with potatoes.
Two carbs in a dish? Oh yes
In fact I had to look up what French was for pie as I have never seen it. Both google and deepL came up with “tarte”. But a tarte is not a pie.
But a tourte is ![]()
But now you mention it I always associate a pie as having pastry … and Sheperd’s pie has no pastry.
Dang you are right - thanks for that. Better than deepL
Shepherds pie is made with lamb.
Cottage pie is made with beef.
