One less off the streets. I despise these hard drug dealers, basically they are potential murderers. 4 years isn’t long enough
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The whole debacle around sentencing needs to be completely sorted out once and for all! I’ve lost count of the amount of letters I’ve written to the government where sentences are concerned and also the stupid ‘to run concurrently’ is handed out by our judiciary; I would much prefer ‘to run consecutively’ as it is over then other side of the pond. Hit the felons where it hurts, in the total time to serve🤬
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Exactly. After all, if one doesn’t want to do the time then…
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Why can’t we just get rid of these wastes of space?
Do they benefit the community or the country in any way?
What they do is nothing less than subjecting their victims to long-term injury and ultimately death.
OK, I’ll be more humane.
Give them a severe prison sentence.
If, after their release, they offend again just hang them and let everyone forget them and their evil.
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I like the idea of giving someone a chance to atone and change their ways whilst making sure that they have long enough to do so. Since taxpayers will be covering the cost of this, it also seems right that if they decide not to play nicely, then all bets are off.
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This man is one of many, often recruited from a young age, to work for the major drug dealing gangs in their “county lines” operations.
So many of the “ cogs in the wheel” like him have been convicted and sentenced to around 5 years in jail over the last 10 years or more - when he goes to prison, his place will be taken by another one - what is really needed is to get all those at the top of these gangs and lock them up for a very long time.
Unfortunately, even when the police do manage to round up and imprison a whole major drugs gang, including the “kingpins”, another gang will move in to take their place.
There was a time the police thought they were making some headway to reduce the “county lines” to about 600 but it has mushroomed again during the pandemic - last July there was estimated to be around 1,000 county lines, with more and more vulnerable youngsters being recruited.
I saw there has been a National police crackdown on county lines in March but it’s like trying to extinguish a major fire with small buckets of water.
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What I dont understand is these small lenient sentences. I know there is a set sentencing but why isnt this looked into by the government and changed . Surely change can be made and more severe sentences dished out . I watch these police documentaries and see what the police go through to get these evil yobs into custody then at the end we are told Joe Blogs got 6 weeks community sentence or7 nights in prison and a smacked wrist or worse still the court case was unproven. They must laugh at the sentences and no wonder there is no respect for our police force
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In short…not enough prison cells available. Can’t have 1 crook take up 20 years of space and resources when you could have 5 doing 4 years each over the same period of time.
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So it’s better to do a big crime than a small one?
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You beat me to it. I would like to see these “people” do some real time - say 10yrs min with no time off for good behaviour.
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That was another subject covered in my many letters to the government, the substantial cost of the penal system to tax payers. Under my ideas and wishes, ALL prison sentenced inmates would have to work to eat and pay for their entertainment just as we do on the outside; no work then no food or entertainment without a thoroughly vetted medical exemption and NO exceptions🤬
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I mentioned proportionality in the GP thread. Same is true elsewhere in that if population increases by say 25% then it’s probably not too far off the mark to suggest you need 25% more police, court time and prison cells too if you want to maintain long sentences as an option.
I’d love to see the figures to see if this has actually happened over time.
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As you’ve explained yourself, the police can do all they possibly can, but when the courts fail to punish the criminals, what more can the police do? I can well understand if the police are losing heart and willingness to go the extra mile, when they see this.
What needs to be done is the establishement of minimum sentences legally prescribed for certain crimes. Take the ‘easy options’ choice out of the hands of the soft judges who appear to live on another planet.
Lack of prison places is no excuse either. My suggestions would be:
- more prisoners to a cell - it’s not a 5-star hotel;
- hard labour, as we used to have, as a deterrent;
- some practical training could be included - along with hard labour for the well-behaved;
- no televisions, mobile phones or even radios - no time for such frills;
- solitary confinement for any troublemakers;
- even physical punishment for the worst behaviour.
With all of the above, I can virtually guarantee that we wouldn’t need as many prison places anyway.
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“But, but, but they has rights. What about their 'ooman rights?” cry the bleeding hearts. Genesis ch 9 v 7 to you would be my reply to that. 
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Best start that rain dance then. 
Yes, but what a shame that we, the law-abiding population, don’t seem to have those human rights.
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From what I can see and hear these people are not afraid or worried about prison in fact the prison service actually expect them to return sooner than later . It’s a joke to the crims .
If true Susan, then one has to wonder why we go to the additional expense of releasing, apprehending, prosecuting and incarcerating them. Would just have been cheaper to have kept them banged up.
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At about £50k/yr each? I think JBR is on the right track - make the buggers work for their penance.
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