OK, I’m getting old. But I like music, even some modern music. So I was hiding inside from the intense heat we are experiencing in France. And with a 38 deg afternoon to kill, I thought I’d dip into Glasto '25. OMG.
What the actual (rude word)? Charli XCX? What? Soz Charli fans but she was pants. Allanis was just noise (and I used to quite like her songs). Let’s not even discuss so many rubbish bands and singers.
On the bright side. Raye was brilliant. Biffy were noisy but still good.
Anyone got good recommendations for me watch on catch up?
Good music stopped being produced at the end of the eighties…But every now and then the odd one turns up.
I’ve never run to music (I hate the thought) but if I did, it would be to this one by Paul Simon in Hyde park…
Rod Stewart.If only for Stay with Me with Ronnie Wood.
And Neil Young for Like a Hurricane.
I thought this thread might be about all the vylan furore
Good suggestions, ta. I did suspect that we would all prefer the seasoned performer over the more recent ones. However I did hear one song by Lola Young and thought it pretty good.
Fake furore more like. One bloke does some chants against the IDF (what’s their kill tally so far?) and we are offended by the chant? As opposed to offended by the kill tally. Jeez, peeps, get perspective.
I thought that music and sport were meant to bring people together not provide a place to protest…
I’m not a Glastonbury goer but I wonder if similar chants were directed at others would offence be taken?
I for one believe such chants are offensive.
I think it’s quite fashionable (cool) to protest these days Chilli, it’s what they learn in university as well as finding a partner.
Well to tell you the truth Foxy I went on a few protest marches in the dim and distant past. I don’t recall chanting and calling out for people’s deaths however. There’s nothing wrong with protest but a line has to be drawn. That line should apply to everyone!
Yes, I agree Chilli, but it’s a bit difficult when some rich benefactor employs rent-a-mob to stir things up a bit. Sometimes peaceful protestors with a good cause are taken advantage of, and not just by the rich benefactor, but the media (probably encouraged by the rich benefactor or even our own government) put their own spin on it too.
You must have been sleeping when the 60’s happened. And dozing when the Specials released the song Nelson Mandela. Or when Billie Holliday sang Strange Fruit.
Yer but, they were the artists not the great unwashed Lincs…
Bob Dylan has made some brilliant protest music and I didn’t understand it back then, I just loved his stuff…I still love it now though, even though I know what it’s about…
Having said that though, I think during covid some of them should have kept their thought to themselves and not used their fame to advertise something they knew bugger all about.
Same with Palestine, most of those chanting and protesting are just there for the experience they couldn’t care less about how many people have died in the conflict.
I’m confused by this claim. There have been many pro-Palestine marches and I would expect a fair level of people participating in these and also going to Glastonbury. Also, enjoying the festival experience does not negate anyone’s ability to also care about the tragedy going on in Gaza. Surely if they did care about how many people have been killed (sorry, just saying “died” is far too passive, they were killed) then joining in the chanting might have felt like one way to express that view. After all, the government is shutting down all other avenues of voicing criticism of Israel.
I disagree to a point Lincs, I think it’s mainly virtue signalling and just a protest about war in general. If it wasn’t Israel it would be someone else. They do it because they can and it’s ‘cool’
People go for the underdog and they see Palestinians being bullied. Just remember who started this latest round of atrocities? Some of those kidnapped from a ‘music festival’ haven’t been returned yet. You would have though that music festival goers would have had more sympathy for the captured. One wonders if there is more to these protests than meets the eye. They do seem to be unusually co-ordinated don’t they?
One imagines that the sympathy for the atrocity back in the previous October has been somewhat diluted by the tens of thousands killed and the hundreds of thousands made homeless & intentionally starved. No?
And as for coordinated - perhaps all we are seeing is pent up anger and frustration about the UK’s tacit (actually quite explicit) support for Israel while war crimes and genocide appear to be happening. And the more the UK government quashes protest and calls in the use of anti-terrorism legislation the more that anger builds.
The chap leading the chanting, the singer of Bob Vylan, actually made a very articulate and passionate speech prior to the chanting - about that very issue. You probably didn’t see that.
I’m not condoning Israels actions and the loss of many lives but…
It could have been stopped early by returning the hostages Lincs.
Perhaps, or the retention of hostages might have seemed like a way to minimise the retaliatory attacks by the IDF on areas where people lived or where there were hospitals. In hindsight naive but at the time possibly reasonable logic.
And while we are on the issues of maybes - perhaps the numbers killed on that fateful day in October might have been a lot less if the IDF had not shot up so many groups that day, killing hundreds of Israelis themselves. Perhaps more than the terrorists managed.
PS - again, it is not “loss of many lives” but rather tens of thousands killed. Don’t dilute the action by using the passive tense.
Hundreds of Palestinians including children have bee murdered by the IDF when trying to get aid.I think that’s more worthy of news headlines than some mouthy musicians.
Missions have two meanings so it seems.