Flu jabs - have you had yours?

NHS Flu Jab Incentivising From The Top Down

www.nhsemployers.org/~/media/Employers/Publications/Incentive%20schemes.pdf

"Public Health Wales is supporting NHS Wales organisations in running an incentive scheme this year. This is to support their staff-facing immunisation campaigns by providing a small supply of shopping vouchers if they wish to opt in."

"Here are some ideas for you to think about…

[I]Use the shopping vouchers in prize draws:

Every staff member that receives the flu vaccination this season could be entered into a draw to win the vouchers (this could be branded as ‘winning your weekly shop’).

The vouchers could be split so there is a larger number of smaller prizes.

Use the vouchers as a reward for the first department or
directorate to reach 100 per cent uptake. The vouchers
could be given to each team member or could be used to
cater for a team lunch.[/I]

and so on

Yep lot’s of lovely scientific reasoning going on here . . .not !

What do points (of needles) make . . . . prizes !

Mug punters, come on down !

Oh I really hope my nurse wins a prize she really deserves if for her hard work. My GP is pretty good these days too always running late but still willing to help if she can.

Can I suggest that, if you are fed up with Realist’s constant attempts to make you read the Cochrane report, as I am, you should just put him on ignore until this thread comes to an end.
He has already acknowledged that the flu jab should be a personal choice, so why does he keep going on about it?:102:

More incentivising

https://www.england.nhs.uk/2016/03/improve-staff-health/

"From April, hospitals and other providers of NHS care will for the first time be funded to improve the support they offer to frontline health staff to stay healthy. They will be able to earn their share of a national incentive fund worth £450m in 2016/17 if they:

. . .

“increase the uptake of the winter flu vaccine for their staff so as to reduce sickness absence and protect vulnerable patients from infection. The aim is to increase staff vaccination rates from around 50% to nearer to 75%.”

WOW ! £450m quideroonies to help (amongst other things) the flu jab get rolled out.

Whoever said the NHS was cash strapped !!!

Flu vaccines are very big business indeed !

The incentivising has been going on for some years . . .

http://www.wales.nhs.uk/sitesplus/863/news/29539

Morriston Hospital’s Consultant in Emergency Medicine Mike McCabe has added a little incentive to encourage all A&E staff to get protected.

Mr McCabe has bought three boxes of chocolates, and all those staff having a jab will have their names put into a draw.

Mr McCabe said:

"People who are fit and healthy don’t realise how ill they will be if they catch the flu – they will be incredibly ill.

Yep, spread that fear Mr McCabe !!! Work it work it !

As per the CDC presentation of the “7 step recipe for promoting demand for the flu vaccine”

Why are you still in this thread? You’ve made your mind up, you’ve stated you are ignoring the scientific data, why are you still here? :102:

Lol you are right I don’t read his conspiracy theories so why am I reading this :shock:

Perhaps because the Cochrane Library isn’t a conspiracy theory but an internationally respected medical source used throughout the NHS and other health organisations?

Do you know Julie, I didn’t even get the usual sore arm this year. Does this mean the lady, who gave me the jab, was good at administering it… or could it be that she just injected water because she doesn’t care if I get the flu?:surprised::twisted:
I know what my answer to that question is.:044::044::044:

Seriously I think it’s temperature of the vaccine, it always hurts when the weather is very cold and isn’t so bad if it’s warm. That’s my theory :mrgreen:

I went to the Cochran library and could not find the book, but found a great western that I have been looking for ages. (For the kindle of course.) :lol::-D;-):
:shock:
I have a sore throat, coughing, and running eyes. And I had the flu jab.
But I have been playing with my daughters cats, and I am allergic to them, but it could be flu.
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I found the article linked to below quite interesting reading. In the end, it says that the flu vaccine is not 100% guaranteed to prevent flu …but I think this is something we all knew anyway. However, it is also concluded that vaccination remains ‘the best intervention available for seasonal influenza at present, and people in at-risk groups should still be vaccinated’.

http://www.nhs.uk/news/2011/10October/Pages/effectiveness-flu-jab-studied.aspx

I didn’t get a sore arm either Twink neither did my sister :slight_smile: Perhaps the NHS has a new batch of not-so-blunt needles .

I give my arm a good massage afterwards and told my sister to do the same, not sure if it does anything or not but no soreness here.

I thought that too Tpin but I don’t think there’s too much danger of that. I reckon we all join discussions with our minds made up anyway. I’ve read the whole thread and like earlier ones on the same subject, nobody has changed their minds yet and they aren’t likely to.

If there were any readers not decided yet on this matter, then they ought to do their research. Realist would have no need to feel responsible for whether a person decided to get the jab or not. Nor feel responsible for if they became ill or not.

I suggest a good read on the matter. The only thing is that Realist will not see how anyone could come to a different conclusion to him. Such is life.

You don’t think they have decided to spoil us regulars, do you?:mrgreen:

No Twink, if they were going to spoil us I would have expected champagne and canapés :mrgreen:

Me too!:081:

I think some people have the flu injection because it’s free! I wonder how many would still have it, if they had to pay for it?

Whatever happened to bird flu and swine flu?

I would, the small cost of the jab is better than potential death.:mrgreen: Just think, if there was an epidemic, nobody would be allowed to visit with a bunch of grapes too.:surprised:

I used to pay for mine Art, £10 in Boots :slight_smile: .

Whatever happened to bird flu and swine flu?
they are still around and the current vaccination covers a varient of swine flu, ‘H1N1’ which caused the pandemic in 2009 with deaths estimated as being between 151,700 and 575,400 people. It was the same strain as the virus wich caused the dreadful pandemic in 1918 during WW1.