First report of UFO

November 17th 1882. The Royal Astronomer, Walter Maunder, witnessed an unidentified flying object from the Greenwich Observatory. He described it as a circular object, glowing bright green. Or so say some. The actual report by Walter Maunder was somewhat different. He wrote…

This “torpedo-shaped” beam of light was quite unlike any other celestial object that I have ever seen. The quality of its light, and its occurrence while a great magnetic storm and a bright aurora were in progress, seem to establish its auroral origin. But it differed very widely in appearance from any other aurora that I have ever seen…

The incident was as a result of a geomagnetic storm & Newspapers reported the events. For example Charles Fort, an American, wrote In the London Times, Nov. 20, 1882. "the Editor says that he had received a great number of letters upon this phenomenon. He published two. One correspondent describes it as “well-defined and shaped like a fish … extraordinary and alarming.” The other correspondent writes of it as “a most magnificent luminous mass, shaped somewhat like a torpedo.”

So yes, at that point in scientific terms probably not identified by most. But certainly not flying, or an object.

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Ooo, Fort. Now there’s a character! He rejected scientific empiricism, researching and writing about things that could not be explained scientifically (though most of it was). In the end, he was known to say that he didn’t believe any of the wild ideas he proposed, like Martians observing and controlling human behavior on Earth, yet he also asserted that humans’ and specifically scientists’ reasoning as absurd.

Today we scoff at Fort, and we are living in myopically disappointing times. It seems that the only thing that matters societally these days is STEM, and contemplation of that which cannot be proven - souls, love, beauty, culture, beliefs… are all wasted energy. Empiricism states that if it can’t be proven, then it doesn’t deserve research or even attention. The observable matters; the unobservable does not. Fort proposed that we shouldn’t throw out the big questions and strange happenings because science won’t allow it.

I love science, but the assertion that it is the elite and the only correct way of considering “knowing” is myth and a mistake. Scientists operate without empiricism surprisingly frequently; just look at quantum physics where they use belief in the guise of statistics. You show me a quantum physicist and I will show you a philosopher! I’m not talking about little green men, but maybe a spoon of Forteanism with a big bowl of empiricism isn’t such a bad thing :smiley: :+1:

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I can understand how an 19th century bloke could be confused with things hanging about in the sky…And not a diesel engine in sight… :009:

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Alas the poor virgins who were slung off cliffs or sacrificed in some fashion, when a random Tuesday morning eclipse darkened the skies. :cold_sweat:.

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You would have been hard pushed to find a virgin in a south Yorkshire pit village Surfer…
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And look what happened when one married in Chesterfield church.

The story is that that a virgin from Chesterfield once married in the church and the building was so surprised that the spire turned around to look at the bride. The legend is that that if another virgin from Chesterfield marries in the church, the spire will straighten up again.

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Aye, I used to chase those Chesterfield lasses back in the day…
Chesterfield Marathon…as you can see, very well subscribed to…
I think they got tired of waiting for me…

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They probably had to choose between the least ravaged. Lots of argument and pointing of fingers between the girls as to who that was.

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Perhaps that’s why the girls were…Ah Hum…a bit generous with their affections mart…
They don’t like making sacrifices… :009:

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Tsk, tsk, tsk…y’all are in for some good smacking by the lasses of your region…

Or forced feedings of black pudding :nauseated_face:.

Behave.

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Quote from OGF

You would have been hard pushed to find a virgin in a south Yorkshire pit village Surfer… unquote

you could say that was virgin on the impossible

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Oh no… :100:
I’ll do anything to avoid the black pudding… :078:

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:rofl: :joy: :laughing:

(I hear the younger generations groaning at that one!)

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Are you suggesting that I should stop doing that ?

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Yes; it tends to make them upset about missing Taylor Swift concerts.

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How about I pick a few virgins at the end of a Swift concert, and lob them off the roof of the Arena?
Seems a fair compromise.