Do you think we have benefited from Brexit?

I think you are getting into the territory of making up what you think I’ve said. There’s some other ideas that you are making up.
What do you mean by infrastructure? You cite the size of another country - so you mean land? Using land is a meaningless measure as in the UK only 5% of land is used for housing (including the gardens). That is not close to a dense country like Netherlands (7%).
The UK has almost 1 million empty, unused houses / flats. Is that the infrastructure that you think the UK is short of? That does not include empty office blocks that might be converted.
Or do you mean the short of infrastructure that successive UK governments have under spent on - roads, schools, health care? The reason roads have pot holes is that local government cuts have meant not repairing roads and there are such cuts because the contribution were cut by almost a quarter. We get what we fund or don’t fund. What is needed is more tax revenue to pay for such infrastructure. Tax from more people paying taxes.
So perhaps you mean the infrastructure that is paid for from taxation and that having people working means more tax revenue - unlike the 8.5 million who are not working but of working age. This does not include the 1.5 million unemployed (not working but seeking work). The others are caring for others (1.6 million) or sick (2.75 million) or students (2.4 million). That looks like a lot of potential workers…paying tax. But you are seemingly not worried about that.
But they are not working so the UK, with its aging population, needs workers from other countries. That is, people filling key roles, paying taxes and contributing to the GDP growth.

Dunno.

People have to be earning at least £29000 before they can bring family members over, it also costs the family member as well…

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depends on the profession. Key workers such as doctors and nurses can bring dependents. carers who entered the UK before March 2024 can still bring family over even if they change their profession.

Can a foreign Doctor ever understand a locals problem?

Regardless of the certificates.

I think the trouble with foreign doctors is that many of them would not have chosen that profession as a calling. Many families in countries that we source medical professional are determined to have a doctor in the family regardless of whether that’s what the child wants to study or have any talent in dealing with people in a sensitive and caring manner.

I’m saying this based on my experience of working with someone who had a son who qualified as a doctor and a daughter who qualified as a dentist simply because that is what mum determined should be their chosen profession. They were born here but the parents were from abroad. Both kids absolutely clearly hated their imposed professions but had no choice but to make mum happy.

I have been seen by such medical professionals and don’t feel their heart is in it and it makes you literally want to lose the will to live if you have a medical problem and the healthcare professional has no interest in your welfare. It’s a waste of everyone’s time and NHS money.

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It does appear that Brexit has diminished Britain’s importance in the world especially from the US perspective.

Britain was an entry into Europe but with that connection gone and with the US shifting its focus to Asia (and the Middle East) its status is much reduced to a European outlier.

You only have to listen to this discussion by US analysts to realise that.

The UK would be in all sorts of problems if there were no “foreign doctors” - take a look at the attached and admire the wide racial mix of top doctors. Then thank them for helping people in the UK, rather than dob all foreign doctors as not understanding the problems of locals…
https://www.doctify.com/uk/find/all/united-kingdom/specialists

True but the GOP and Trump hate the EU as it is competing major power group. And it makes decisions that go against the US aim of maintaining dominance in the tech and defense sectors. That is why Trump supporting Brexit - it is the same as Putin’s support for Brexit. They both want to see a weak, divided Europe.

It’s not about race, but about people born here being trained as doctors and nurses and the facilities and funding for that being made a priority. Britain has world class teaching hospitals and we should be training British born doctors, whatever their ethnicity. The NHS continues to be treated as a political football and the status of doctors has deteriorated. It’s not a case of bottoms on seats. We need professionals who know what they are doing without a patient having to repeat themselves ten times to be understood.

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