Unfortunately their fundamental values are not everyone’s cup of tea .
Yea, there seem to be more Coffee drinkers than Tea drinkers nowadays.
I don’t think society is going belly up due to lack of religion . It seems it has more to do with the lack of the understanding and respecting diversity.
People have always compared and competed with each other. We have the world olympics which proves that however we usually respected the diversity of humanity.
Now the world is severely overcrowded with far less natural resources since we’ve exploited all that and people now can compare each others lives much more intimately due to the internet…
There’s far more elaborate ways to deceive each other and far more competition. Now more than ever, people from other countries are wanting to flee theirs and escape to other countries to start a new life while bringing their own culture and lifestyle with them.
This in itself causes major conflict.
Add all the violent movies, tv series and war games we are constantly exposed to which somehow normalizes violence, it’s no wonder we are such a violent species.
Add global warming to the equation and you have massive populations wishing to flee their overheated countries to other countries less overly heated which adds to the increasing frustration.
Add a recent pandemic into the equation which shut down major production throughout the world, and brings about recession and poverty, all leads to desperation. Desperation leads to criminal activity which leads to more violence.
A peaceful world is nothing but a pipe dream which religion won’t fix. Religion has only brought about more ‘divide and conquer’ mentality. It’s a business after all and all businesses compete.
It’s hardly peaceful when there’s religious competition along with the 10 commandments which NO HUMAN can live up to.
When people use to retire at 65 after working their guts out then drop dead at 66 perhaps divorce wasn’t so high on the list of must haves.
I do not drink either, so where does that leave me? Hmmm… I have never been mainstream 
Are you SodaStream? 
I didn’t say society has gone ‘belly up’ because of the lack of religion, it just seems to coincide with the demise of religion.
I don’t believe in diversity for diversity’s sake. A person must be selected because they are the best person for the job, not just because they are a different colour or religion.
What resources are we short of Chelsea? And the world is only overcrowded in the areas of high population…Cities etc…
Every country has it’s own identity which makes the world so ‘Diverse’ it’s not necessarily a good idea to mix conflicting cultures. If you relocate to another country you should respect it’s customs and laws and not change them to suit yourself. You are a guest and should integrate.
I wholeheartedly agree on this point Chelsea. I believe the things we see do have an impression and the fine line between reality and fiction gets blurred by some.
Maybe you can’t but I don’t think that I’m doing a bad job up to now…
I don’t steal or covet my neighbours wife or his house…I’ve never murdered anyone, and I’ve never committed adultery…However, I do cuss, and I haven’t decided which God to follow yet…Call it work in progress…
1 Like
That’s human, if ever I’ve seen it. 
2 Likes
Well Foxy, if you are speaking about religion, then of course it’s about society. Society is humanity. Religion isn’t written for inanimate objects. 
People should be judged by their character and work ethics’s as far as employment is concerned. Personal relationships requires a bit more refinement of preferences; at least for myself that is.
We shall agree to disagree Foxy about the population topic. I’m too lazy to explain my reasonings.
If you haven’t yet decided which God to follow you can scrap commandment
#1/. Thou shall have no other Gods before me
#2/. Don’t worship any false images - you’d fail this one also since due to #1
#3/. Thou shall not take the name of the lord they God in vain…. Once again, if you don’t acknowledge , lord as thy God , there goes #3
#4/. Do you keep Sunday as a Holy Day and go to church or stay home and pray ? I doubt it so scrap #4
#5/. Honour thy father and mother … I’m guessing yours are deceased so you’re off the hook on this one.
#6/. Thy shall not kill …. Thou shall not kill what exactly. If you weed your garden or swat at that annoying mosquito…… there goes #6😂
7/. Thou shall not commit adultery
You might not have yet but I saw your post about marriage and what you said you’d do if you couldn’t service Mrs. foxy or she you.
Sooooo…. I dunno. 
8/. Thou shall not steal. Nothing? Not even a candy in the bulk store. 
We’ll give you this one
9/. Thou shall not bear false witness to thy neighbour .
You’ve never lied to your neighbour?
Not even “ can’t come over tonight Joe cause yadda yadda yadda? Okayyy. We’ believe you I guess.
10/. Thou shall not covet or be jealous?
If you say you are never jealous of anyone for any reason I’m going to suggest you’re a tad deluded. Everyone’s a bit jealous from time to time. It’s part of being human.
My main point is that obeying these 10 commandments is basically impossible because as humans we are NOT perfect and shouldn’t be expected to be
2 Likes
That’s the caveat that a lot of folks use to stop TRYING.
1 Like
What a good thread this has been Realspeed its made everyone think
2 Likes
It is odd that he hasn’t posted since last month but is still around.
1 Like
Okay Chelsea, so the ten commandments written on the tablet of stone were just the draft copy, to see the full T&C’s and the Frequently asked questions you must refer to the smallprint in the good book.
If I believed in God (the jury is still out, I’m sort of a doubting Robert) I would imagine that he would be loving, tolerant, and forgiving…After all, it’s stated somewhere in the above ‘Good Book’ that we are made in his own image, so he is aware of how hard it can be to balance on that straight and narrow line.
(1) Thou shall have no other Gods before me…
Aren’t all Gods based on the one God? So it’s not that I need to chose between several, it’s just whose interpretation of God do I believe…
(2) Don’t worship false images…
Golden Cows don’t do it for me…Although in my younger day I have worshiped a few…
(3) Thou shall not take the name of the Lord thy God in Vain…
We often have disputes, but he knows I’m not being serious.
(4) Do you keep Sunday as a holy day…
Absolutely. I do bugger all on a Sunday.
(5) Honour thy Father and Mother…
You are right Chelsea, they passed away in 2009 but their teachings and morals live on in me. They did the best they could with what they had, and I appreciate it every day…
(6) Thou shall not kill…
I would never knowingly kill anything, but with flies and spiders you have to set an example otherwise they overrun the place. I do try to scoop them up and release them outside though when it is practical…(not raining)
(7) Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Nobody ever asked me to, so I don’t know if I would or not. After 50 + years of marriage, the situation hasn’t presented itself, so I doubt it would now… 
(8) Though shall not steal.
No nothing. It’s called redistribution of wealth not stealing. In my young foolish days, perhaps the odd thing, but a good thrashing off my parents made me realise the error of my ways.
(9) Thou shall not bear false witness to thy neighbour.
What people do in my cul-de-sac stays in the cul-de-sac… 
(10) Thou shall not covet or be jealous…
Why should I be jealous of anyone or anything…I am happy and content, if I haven’t got it. or done, it’s now it’s too late to worry…
Perfection must have a tolerance, plus or minus…
1 Like
You’re a good sport Foxy!
An equally funny response. 
1 Like
Maybe divorcers and divorcees will have to pay in an afterlife for the ‘interest’ that life’s twists and turns in relationships have lead them to. There will be a weeping and a gnashing of teeth so there will.
I wonder what happens to those who have no teeth at judgement time. A gnashing of gums? …or maybe they are provided with a set of teeth so they can gnash.
The course of true love never did run smooth
~Shakespeare~
1 Like
Thanks Chelsea, you’re not so bad yourself…You have certainly livened up the forum…For me anyway…
1 Like
This one hit home for me. I’m trying to figure out if a financial analyst is worth it before hiring a lawyer. Sometimes a person will have to walk a mile in another’s shoe to totally understand. Does anyone have thoughts on if a financial advisor is worth it before a lawyer when trying to get in front of a divorce?
Hi Looking Forward, gosh you’ve re-opened a can of worms with this old thread!
I had forgotten what a load of holier-than-though tosh it contained!
I hope all those judgey posts didn’t put you off, if you came looking for advice about divorce.
I see you are from USA, so it’s probably a very different legal process to how it works in U.K.
Whatever stage you are at now, I hope things work out well for you, though.
4 Likes
I’m from the US, and been divorced aver 15 years now. My last marriage wasn’t fulfilling my needs, and after 12 years decided to part ways. I filed for divorce; gave up all rights to my half of the home, and only took a few things. He was left living very comfortably, much as he was before we married, back to his bachelor ways, but with the home paid for.
I decided to do my own divorce, filed the separation agreement, waited a year, then filed the divorce papers. It was relatively easy, neither spouse cheated, lied, or caused undue grief.
I am very happy I made the choice. We simply were not right for each other. He was a homebody, and I am more outgoing and social.
Good luck to you in your choices.
2 Likes