If our vets were more honest we wouldn’t be the only country without MRSA in our meat supply. The idea that it’s the hospitals fault simply isn’t tenable. It has to come from outside and where is the most likely place. In every other country they recognise that intensive meat production results in antibiotic meat.
We alone have a problem with credibility.
Who was it that said that? I just wanted a diet thread to see how we were all doing.
Well I have lost 14lbs as of today which I am thrilled about. My husband has lost 2stones which is brilliant he is now so good looking he might go off and find a skinny bird.
Please don’t ever say that at your age something is not important you could live for another 30 years and everything is important to you.
Ted life is clearly just one big worry and conspiracy theory for you isn’t it , I surprised you haven’t got health problems caused by worry.
You must spend your entire time searching the internet for depressing health stories while the rest of us are enjoying life.
With regard to the Schmallenberg virus, from what I can gather speaking to local farmers there is very little known about it so not much to cover up. As yet it has nothing to do with the topic of diets. When and if it ever is I am sure you will want to be the first to tell us…
Anyway back to our dieting thread … you have done so well Cookiecate losing 14 1bs, well done. I’m sure you’re husband won’t go off with someone else, sounds like he has a wonderful wife. Actually not all men like skinny birds, quite a few of them like birds with a little bit of flesh on them.
Hubby weighed me this morning and I stayed the same … still, I’m not too worried as it seems to be the pattern with me at the moment and then I lose on the second week.
I must confess I have gone off it today I’ve had a few bars of chocolate plus other naughties :shock: I will get straight back on it tomorrow and I’ll get weighed again in two weeks time. Give me time to get it off.
You were the person who was doubting that there were infections in UK meat production units.
I was pointing to easily obtained evidence that this is unlikely.
You know perfectly well what happens to whistleblowers in the NHS so you can predict the same happens in other professions.
You think they are all perfectly open and above board and I have a more realistic expectation of human nature.
The point is that if “officially” we have no goats with this virus and in actual practice we know that isn’t true then someone is lying. You may like being lied to, I don’t.
I was pointing to easily obtained evidence that this is unlikely.
You know perfectly well what happens to whistleblowers in the NHS so you can predict the same happens in other professions.
You think they are all perfectly open and above board and I have a more realistic expectation of human nature.
The point is that if “officially” we have no goats with this virus and in actual practice we know that isn’t true then someone is lying. You may like being lied to, I don’t.
Ah… so you know what I am thinking now do you Ted
Well done Cate, that’s a lot to lose, you’ll soon be catching your other half up
I’m not doing very well, been naughty all weekend and went fell walking today and was naughty when I got home! Just do it without thinking Haven’t got strong willpower. I have started to use the eliptical trainer at home so doing more exercise which I’m hoping will help.
What do other members do to stop themselves going to the cupboard and eating treats without really thinking about the consequences?
You could have a laughing pig in the fridge. I saw one and when you opened the fridge this pig laughed at you. It wasn’t a real pig, I don’t think you could persuade a real one to stay in the fridge and laugh.
Or you could get one of those biscuit tins that scream out when you take the lid off.
Of course you could just get a really lovely piccy of yourself when you were looking just like you would like to look now and stick it on a cupboard or fridge.
Also you could hide your goodies and not tell yourself where you had hidden them.
I just thought there Marian young lady why would you need to hide the goodies if you don’t buy them in the first place. Buy lots of fruit, bananas are great with a little sugar free jelly, or even in a wholemeal pitta bread with some peanut butter.
I find that eating a piece of cheese or a spoonful of cream takes away the thought of wanting to eat anything else.
Yes Cate, very well done to you I’m starting a diet too, but this time around, just being careful of what I put in my mouth. Have tried most of the diets going, in fact this time last year was doing Slimming World. With me, it’s getting the ‘get-up-and-go’ to get going, if you follow me
I tend to make myself a drink if I feel the munchies coming on, or have some carrot sticks, or fruit as Cate mentioned. My worst time for snacking is the evenings, so I’ll have to keep myself busy, like being on here, for instance.
ha ha some good ideas there Cate. Yes I agree I shouldn’t buy them in the first place but the problem is with these blooming supermarkets they have such bargains, like £1 for such and such and half price biscuts and so on and I can’t resist. I will have to retrain myself me thinks and not to look at them. That’s the hardest part I tell myself when I buy them that I’ll just have one, but of course that never works. I really need to do this, big time!! I do eat fruit, apples and bananas, getting tired of bananas though as been having one a day for donkey’s years. I like the idea of peanut butter in pitta bread, thanks for your suggestions, keep them coming, please
Ah… so you know what I am thinking now do you Ted
That would presume you are capable of rational thinking.
I haven’t seen much evidence that you are capable of doing your own research, looking carefully at the evidence and coming to reasonable conclusions based on that evidence.
It seems you would rather believe anything anyone wearing a white coat tells you and assume that is true without checking that they are actually telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Still if following the science and thinking for yourself is difficult for you that’s fine by me. It’s a pity though when reasonably articulate individuals choose not to exercise their brains and think for themselves.
See post 122 Ted
I could spend all day everyday sitting on my behind doing research which would be pretty pointless really because as I pointed out earlier in post 122 studies give conflicting advice. Or I can get lots of exercise and enjoy life.
Also I wouldn’t want to risk ending up like you, obsessed with research and spending your days on countless websites annoying people with your ‘I know best about everything’ attititude and inflated opinions to the point where on one site a petition was started to have you removed
Still if following the science and thinking for yourself is difficult for you that’s fine by me.It’s a pity though when reasonably articulate individuals choose not to exercise their brains and think for themselves.
Ted I think all our members are capable of thinking for themselves ,they just choose not to ram their opinions down peoples throats with a big stick.
Ted I have a little more research for you, try looking up ‘God complex’
But we all evolved from the same species and there are some fundamental aspects of health that apply to us all.
What annoys me so much about the utter complacency of many people here is that your fail to recognise that the advice we are provided with by health professionals is failing to prevent chronic conditions like obesity, diabetes, cancer, osteoproris and dementia. You also won’t make any effort to recognise the harm that is inflicted needlessly on your fellow citizens by dangerous and unhelpful medical interventions that the sum total of evidence shows do more harm than good.
, I will continue to believe in my medical team that look after me, so far we are not doing so bad between us.
Now I am out of here my head hurts from knocking it against that brick wall.
You and I will continue to have different health outcomes because you will year on year be taking more prescription medications and I will remain not needing and not taking any. You are welcome to your choice.
The fact that diabetics getting current medical treatments generally have shorter lives than those have diabetes or who manage the symptoms without prescriptions drugs is a fact that should make you rethink your current complacent and dangerously misguided stance.
If I thought my opinions counted I would be like you and just provide my bigotted opinions without making any effort to provide links to the evidence that supports what I think.
It’s because I have studied the evidence and come to rational conclusions and am prepared to spend the time providing links to the sources I use that I can justify why I think as I do.
All you are doing is repeating the myths and mistakes of the past. That is why the health service remains treating more people year on year for conditions which with just a little thought could be avoided.
Perhaps if you listen to File on 4 tomorrow you may understand that we cannot continue to afford the current result of medical incompetance and dangerously misguided dietary advice.
PS Look at the rises predicted for increased cancer costs and perhaps you’ll realise that we need to spend more time and effort on prevention and reducing access to the fuel most cancer cells grow fasted on.
You know when the grown ups are fighting and you just have to put your fingers in your ears and make a blah blah blah sound. Well I am doing that.
TED You have told me some really interesting facts about my husbands diabetes. I have taken on board a great deal of what you say. Infact since we have been eating low carb my husband has noticed a big improvement in his health, he no longer sneezes or gets welts on his body for no particular reason. However, I can see that you are a person who likes people to agree with you and when you find someone who does not you will stand over them and keep talking until they do.
You need to humanise yourself before you start to preach and send enough links to different research to take us to the moon. I believe that if you need to keep pushing the door after you have given your opinion then people stop listening and also reading.
I am truly grateful for much of your information but you have seen us as ordinary people with views we have yet to meet Ted Hutchinson so why would people listen to you?
I certainly will, in fact I am going to find out if you as a vegetarian could doooooooooo Atkins. With all the energy you use up you could lose quite a few pounds in just one week which would give you the impetus to lose some more.
Also when you see this stuff offered for a £1 think about how cheap and cheerful the ingredients are. Why not spend £3 on something that is really tasty and that you won’t be tempted to eat all in one go.
Is it, pause a moment Ted and read through the three threads in which you have posted and see how you might come across to other people.
If I thought my opinions counted I would be like you and just provide my bigotted opinions without making any effort to provide links to the evidence that supports what I think.
It’s because I have studied the evidence and come to rational conclusions and am prepared to spend the time providing links to the sources I use that I can justify why I think as I do.
All you are doing is repeating the myths and mistakes of the past. That is why the health service remains treating more people year on year for conditions which with just a little thought could be avoided.
Ted I don’t need to read any more evidence , I have seen with my own eyes the results of a low carbohydrate diet on a friend of mine who ended up in hospital with an impacted bowel, not something I would wish on anyone.
It is logical to me that if you don’t eat enough fibre, food doesn’t pass through the gut quickly and efficiently. For many people the low carbohydrate diet doesn’t contain enough of the right kind of fibre.
This is the latest advice on a healthy diet from a major Cancer organisation, note the inclusion of limiting certain meats and eating unprocessed cereals and/or pulses …http://www.dietandcancerreport.org/expert_report/recommendations/index.php
It is the sort of diet recommended by my doctor for me taking into consideration my health problems. That is good enough for me.
I see no point in discussing this topic with you further Ted .
Thanks Cate. I will be going to supermarket in next day or so and will think about the cheap ingredients in the snack food I buy which is no good for me!! I don’t have any left in the house now, just the more healthy stuff - nuts and seeds :-D:-D
life is clearly just one big worry and conspiracy theory for you isn’t it , I surprised you haven’t got health problems caused by worry.
I’ve had a few bars of chocolate plus other naughties :shock: I will get straight back on it tomorrow and I’ll get weighed again in two weeks time. Give me time to get it off. 
Haven’t got strong willpower. I have started to use the eliptical trainer at home so doing more exercise which I’m hoping will help.
I’m starting a diet too, but this time around, just being careful of what I put in my mouth.
Have tried most of the diets going, in fact this time last year was doing Slimming World. With me, it’s getting the ‘get-up-and-go’ to get going, if you follow me 
I tell myself when I buy them that I’ll just have one, but of course that never works. I really need to do this, big time!! I do eat fruit, apples and bananas, getting tired of bananas though as been having one a day for donkey’s years. I like the idea of peanut butter in pitta bread, thanks for your suggestions, keep them coming, please 
I’ve tried making a drink but hasn’t worked so far. Think I’ll have to put a label on the cupboard door which might make me think twice.