You mean like we gave Liz Truss a chance?
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The problem is in the highly unlikely event that Starmer takes any notice of a petition and resigns, who will replace him? Does anyone think Angela Rayner would be a better PM? Is there anyone in the Labour party who will put the citizens of UK first?
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If only things were “Clear Cut”, life would be so simple, wouldn’t it?
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I wish people would stop reading clickbait headlines in the right wing media…
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The best thing Starmer’s done so far was to get those Thugs banged up PDQ.
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Who’s “we”?
Was there a public petition like the one in the OP, demanding that Liz Truss resign?
Did you sign it?
I did not sign it - I didn’t even see it - you have quoted my post but I’m not one of your “we” group.
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Hmm – yes let’s think of what else Starmer has done:
Condemned millions of pensioners to a cold winter, whilst ensuring he and his fellow MPs maintain their own “energy” allowance
Lied about not putting up N.I. (now saying he only meant workers N.I. payments– yeah right)
Gave huge pay rises to his union backers
Claims there is a huge “black hole” in finances, yet is going to borrow £50b
I am sure others can come up with more!
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Well he hasn’t ensured him and his fellow mp,s anything, right or wrong it’s all perfectly within the rules
NI hasn’t gone up yet as we haven’t had the budget, and it’s only proposed for business
He doesn’t pay the unions
The black hole is probably more than has been stated…
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He could have led by example and declined to take his “energy” allowance
He has stated that N.I. will go up (but now claiming the manifesto only meant it wouldn’t go up for workers)
His Chancellor agreed the payments to the union members - payback for the union support
The “black hole” will be even deeper and darker after borrowing £50b
Might be gone before end of year. Tempted to have a flutter. 
Sincerely hope he is not leading the country on Remembrance Sunday. The very thought, nauseating.
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Considering Remembrance Sunday is only 2 weeks away, I think it is a fairly safe bet that Keir Starmer will still be Prime Minister.
All the military personnel in my family considered their Boss was the Monarch and they worked for the country, not the Prime Minister, so when we gather round the Cenotaph to remember our loved ones and their comrades who were killed in conflict, we don’t give the current PM much thought, whoever it is.
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Starmer’s playing the tough guy at the moment, nearer the GE he’ll be telling us how he’s fixed everything and handing out £££ all round.
Its very much a pathetically futile gesture, this petition. It really falls into the category of why bother.
Such a petition cannot be to raise awareness. It is evident to everyone that Labour and Starmer have not had a great first few months in power. They have managed a misstep or poor presentation in so much of what they’ve said or done. Even Starmer himself must be aware that he and his government are not doing great thus far. So there is no need for more awareness on this.
It can’t be a petition to make anything happen - certainly not to make the stated goal of the petition happen. Labour has a whopping majority, the Tories are headless chickens, there is no credible PM replacement at the moment, there is zero appetite for a change in PM. These petitions can oblige a government to debate some issue in parliament. This one will not get that far. It is a petition for publicity not a petition for change - and see above.
It is at the wrong time. The new budget has not been presented. Most of the initiatives and changes have not yet been put forward for parliamentary debate. It is a petition that basically says “we don’t like what Starmer might do”. Really? The only people who will sign that are people who do not like Starmer, have never liked Starmer and won’t like Starmer regardless of what he does.
So a complete waste of time.
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And just to add to that. Just name one petition that has ever achieved it’s objectives.
Additionally, I noted that the Petition was started on 1st August - the General Election was on 4th July - the Petitioner was sticking the boot in less than a month after the Election!
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That is an excellent observation. Clearly this is a Tory party activist getting ahead of themselves. Funny how some latch on to this regardless.
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Posted on [September 29 2024]Is Keir Starmer following in the footsetps of Liz Truss?
The thought occurred to me overnight that Keir Starmer is fast heading to emulate the glorious achievements of Liz Truss.
Of course, history does not repeat itself exactly, and he might not, as yet, have created the sorts of crises that she did. But there is, undoubtedly, a growing feeling that he is a lame-duck prime minister, elected to office without a clue as to what he wanted to do and clearly without the competence to work what might be now that he is in Downing Street.
There are, though, similarities. Truss let her Chancellor announce tax cuts for the rich that, it was claimed, were unfunded. Starmer has let his Chancellor announce penal measures on some of the poorest in society to supposedly provide her with funding.
No one knew what Truss was really trying to achieve. No one has any better clue about Starmer.
Trust assured everyone that things would work out for the best in the long run. So, too, does Starmer.
The media worked out very quickly that Truss was not up to the job that she had been given. It has now come to that conclusion about Starmer, and that opinion is going to be very difficult for him to shake off.
And, the claim is now being made that the City might not want to fund Starmer (however meaningless that is), and the same was true of Truss.
Truss lasted just seven weeks because she was so clearly not up to the job. She was also without Parliamentary support for what she was doing.
Having won a general election, it is hard to claim that Starmer lacks that support as yet, but the fact that he has already lost at least eight of his MPs (seven by their having had the whip removed and an eighth by resignation) does not suggest that he is enjoying a wave of popularity. The fact that his own party voted against Rachael Reeves’ first announced policy measure does also not help any suggestion to the contrary.
There are, of course, differences. Everyone was baffled that the Tories might think that Liz Truss was competent. In contrast, Starmer succeeded in projecting the idea that he was possessed of that quality. That puts him in a stronger position, but that might only explain why he has already lasted nearly three months and not just seven weeks.
It is, of course, possible that Starmer might recover from the mess that he is in, that is entirely of his own creation. Alternatively, it might all come down to his Chancellor’s first budget. That was also true for Truss. Kwarteng’s was a disaster, and she was gone soon thereafter. If Reeves fails to deliver a budget that wins popular support, Starmer might not make Christmas. That would represent a political failure of epic proportion.
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Hi
Resurrecting an old thread.
Nothing has changed, things have just got worse.
I apologise for voting for him.
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