Hi Davey
Absolutely no problem at all, I like discussing things with you.
We both have similar problems, just decided to deal with them differently.
That is one thing I really like about this Forum, intelligent discussion with very little mud slinging.
The other really good thing is that people rarely, if ever, talk about football.
This low Davey?
An ultra distance runner for over 40 years my resting heartrate was always in the low 40’s but in 2021 even I was surprised and concerned about 35 bpm…
There were other events. As soon as I turned out for my usual morning run wearing a heart rate monitor my heart suddenly shot up to 200 bpm.
I sought the help of a cardiologist who told me in no uncertain terms to stop running immediately.
As time went by even walking would occasionally trigger Tachycardia so a MRI was done and found my heart was only 38% efficient…A pacemaker/defibrillator was inserted and Bisoprolol was prescribed. Although I still run, I can only manage short bursts of one or two minutes before the legs turn to rubber and I gasp for breath.
Sorry about that OGF. Must have been hard to come to terms.
Hi
35 is danger territory, I was always low, not a distance runner like you OGF, but a lot of stamina, I operated on 44, not 35, which is amazingly fit, Olympic Athlete standard.
The problem in todays world is that all the nurses have a small laptop, take your readings, put them in the machine and it gives them a score and if you do not fall within what they consider to be normal your fate is sealed no matter that you tell them you are fine and please can you go home.The legs suddenly stopping moving is something I have, buch much worse than you.
It is called Intermittent Claudication, common with heart failure.
I think you are doing incredibly well.
That is low OGF, unless you are Superman , mine for three nights in question was lower, and I felt crap. Had contacted the Doc twice regarding my ticker via the phone and was told that there was nothing wrong with me and to stop upsetting my wife and to go out and do some gardening. Then went twice to outpatients the second time with my brothers wife who is a nurse on the heart floor and they said the same. Next day was a nightmare, bank holiday and I got up to find my wife crying downstairs saying she could not take anymore of it. Worse she was also getting very severe chest pains. I was lost what to do as I had exhausted all medical options for help, but after a while I phoned for an ambulance for both of us, telling them that I was having severe dizzy spells, while having none. They came out and I told them I was sick of being fobbed off and being ridiculed over the problem. They did a ECG and the guy was horrified and assured me that nobody will ridicule after they read it and he did two more. The worst part at that time was that they took me in but would not take my wife, who was suffering, as she was not booked in. Still, just as well they took me, as while feeling ok, my heart stopped after which all hell broke out, I hallucinated and caused total mayhem. But that is another story.hard to believe.
That’s awful. No wonder you don’t trust the health service. Good job you were diagnosed in time.
It certainly was Annie, hence the need to try and keep doing something.
I just have to find things that I can still do like waking, cycling and just a splash of running…(the pun was intended considering the amount of rain we’ve had just lately)
This months rain…4¼" or 110 mm
Hi Davy.
That just about sums up the NHS today in certain hospital trusts, so glad you survived.
My local Trust is still a disaster even after special measures.
The Maternity Scandal with deaths of both babies and mothers is still going on.
West Mercia Police have last year expanded it to 600 cases and have been given an Extra £3 million to continue the investigation.
They started individual interviews last year.
I resist going into the hospital if at all possible.
Yes Swim, that’s what they told me that 35% or below and I would be classed as disabled.
A resting heartrate in the mid to low 40’s suggests that you were indeed very fit Swim, most runners I know experienced similar readings (if they could keep up with me they did) 
I also read about that too Swim, that going for a checkup would normally mean panic by the medical people once they studied the stats, they don’t make allowances for the fit people of this world…Still don’t…
I went to see my doctor with back trouble in the late eighties when I was 40…He suggested that I was getting older and should slow down and not run quite so many miles in future…
Following that visit I broke my personal bests for Half Marathon, Marathon, Lyke Wake Race (42 miles) and Bullock Smithy (56 miles)…
That’s terrible treatment by the NHS Davey and I’m glad that you were eventually diagnosed correctly and received the help you needed.
Over the last 20 years or so I have had many stays in hospital mostly for 5 days receiving stents and recovering from heart attacks (3) and I must say, once you are in hospital on the coronary wards I have received the best possible treatment and care from the very professional teams staffing those wards…You just have to get past the knobs down stairs.
PS:- I don’t include the paramedics and ambulance people when I said ‘Knobs’… 
They have always been brilliant too…
Same here Foxy, I’ve been through the “upstairs and downstairs” saga - no, I’ve never watched this 
-, and there’s a huge difference definitely. Our ambulance and paramedics are brilliant, it’s just the Casualty department that is a total mess, short-staffed and inefficient. 
That reminds me of a Joe Scarborough print I won on the Sheffield marathon Annie.
There were only a few prints so it might be worth something one day…
Truth is OFG, I imagined that most of those posting on here were going to be fit young things compared with myself and now I found many are old crocks like myself. Been a bit under the weather the last couple of days and been wondering how the heck I arrived in later eighty age without noticing it in reality. Wondered how others have fared, which was there 20 years in life which just disappeared?
Rose, I have often said that I could write a book about the medical profession from the 1950s to date… The problem would be however, nobody would believe it, even if every word was true.
Back in the 60/70s the Doctor worked from home on his own, except for a receptionist one hour in the mornings. He did two surgeries each day and one Sat mornings, No nurse, he also did all the prescriptions, ear waxing etc and home visits every day. You could see him on the day as he opened at 9am and people started queuing outside fro 7am. For reasons he said he liked it when I came in as he could chat with me. So one morning, and I will try and keep it short, I went in with 13 waiting behind me. He springs up as he did and said “Did you see that, she has just come in and is having an affair, last week her husband came in, he is having an affair, why is everybody having an affair but me”? I replied “I doubt you want an affair Doctor” and he replied “Of course I want an affair, I see women here and out there and none ever say they want an affair with me”. I tell him that is not how it works and he say “Oh, I have been doing it wrong, I want you to tell me how to do it”. Two ruddy hours I was in there and those waiting behind me were shouting out and the exit door was slamming. When I asked him about the problem I went in with, he did not have time to look. Loads more, the brain surgeon who was God, the crackpot in Harley Street, years of it. No wonder I trust few of them.
The problem here Rose is that the GP’s are now a waste of space, all they do is administer drugs (if you can understand them) and haven’t got a clue about practical help and illness that the old Doctors could clear up in a few days, so everyone goes to A&E for treatment.
Surgeries have got too big for their boots, especially round here. There are four surgeries served by the same half a dozen doctors, the teams of admin and reception staff are vast and outnumber the doctors and nurses…I thought the computer systems would reduce the number of staff and improve the service, they have actually made it worse.
If you don’t have a smartphone, forget it…
I’m just posting ref a related news story ref Omeprazole. A warning has been issued and advice changed to say this should not be taken long term but for short term courses only.
Now I know plenty of people who have been taking this for years with the doctors blessing. I was given a rolling prescription too but only take it occasionally. I’ve coincidentally been taking it for the last few days so am not impressed.
A few years ago they banned ranitidine after I had been taking it for a few years. Apparently that was linked to cancer.
Makes you think.
I would have looked for a different doctor, unless they were all like that! 
Yes, you’ve said it all Foxy, I usually tell my doctor what I need, she quickly checks and agrees and then sends me a prescription by email. Our GPs have taken al lot of responsibility off their shoulders, they don’t want to diagnose anything, always sending us to specialists all over the place, like yoyos. The next thing you know, we will be advised to go to the seasonal flu specialist. Oh yes, sorry, forgetting,we have the virologists,pulmonologists and otolaryngologists we can dish out all our euros to.
Hi
I just love reading this thread before I take my morning meds.
I’ve only just started reading it and it’s scary stuff
