@Omah Wasn’t this report made by a group of MP’s Omah,
What group of MPs was that then ? I believe there is an official
Parliamentary covid report coming out soon so why not wait
for that ?? Listening to all this makes Boris sound worse than
Hitler when he did nothing more or less than other world
leaders at that time ?
All world leaders arranged for their citizens to be repatriated
from China at the same time, when they should have left them
in China untill they they were cleared of covid, that way the virus
would have been isolated in China ??
But it seems that all world leaders decided to take the chance
and let the cat out of the bag by arranging flights ??
I’m not a Boris admirer but fair play to him !!
Donkeyman! 
The previous two posts are very agreeable. Even if you don’t like a Fella, you don’t kick um when they are down, even though they may kick you when you are down.
https://committees.parliament.uk/publications/7496/documents/78687/default/
House of Commons
Health and Social Care, and Science and Technology Committees
Coronavirus: lessons learned to date
Sixth Report of the Health and Social Care Committee and Third Report of the Science and Technology Committee of Session 2021–22
HC 92
Health and Social Care Committee
The Health and Social Care Committee is appointed by the House of Commons to examine the expenditure, administration, and policy of the Department of Health & Social Care.
Current membership
Rt Hon Jeremy Hunt MP (Conservative, South West Surrey) (Chair)
Paul Bristow MP (Conservative, Peterborough)
Rosie Cooper MP (Labour, West Lancashire)
Dr James Davies MP (Conservative, Vale of Clwyd)
Dr Luke Evans MP (Conservative, Bosworth)
Barbara Keeley MP (Labour, Worsley and Eccles South)
Taiwo Owatemi MP (Labour, Coventry North West)
Sarah Owen MP (Labour, Luton North)
Anum Qaisar-Javed MP (Scottish National Party, Airdrie and Shotts)
Dean Russell MP (Conservative, Watford)
Laura Trott MP (Conservative, Sevenoaks)
Science and Technology Committee
The Science and Technology Committee is appointed by the House of Commons to examine the expenditure, administration and policy of the Government Office for Science and associated public bodies.
Current membership
Rt Hon Greg Clark MP (Conservative, Tunbridge Wells) (Chair)
Aaron Bell MP (Conservative, Newcastle-under-Lyme)
Dawn Butler MP (Labour, Brent Central)
Chris Clarkson MP (Conservative, Heywood and Middleton)
Katherine Fletcher MP (Conservative, South Ribble)
Andrew Griffith MP (Conservative, Arundel and South Downs)
Mark Logan MP (Conservative, Bolton North East)
Rebecca Long-Bailey MP (Labour, Salford and Eccles)
Carol Monaghan MP (Scottish National Party, Glasgow North West)
Graham Stringer MP (Labour, Blackley and Broughton)
Zarah Sultana MP (Labour, Coventry South)
Our inquiry looked in detail at six key areas of the response to covid-19, which are
outlined in more detail in this Report’s first Chapter: the country’s preparedness for a
pandemic; the use of non-pharmaceutical interventions such as border controls, social
distancing and lockdowns to control the pandemic; the use of test, trace and isolate
strategies; the impact of the pandemic on social care; the impact of the pandemic on
specific communities; and the procurement and roll-out of covid-19 vaccines. Across
these areas we have identified several key issues which have had a major impact on
the UK response to covid-19, and should be a key focus for the Government as it seeks
to learn the lessons from the pandemic. This Report, and the evidence we gathered,
are principally around the experience and the response to the pandemic in England
although we refer to aspects elsewhere in the United Kingdom where relevant.
What do we know about the upcoming public inquiry?
In May, the prime minister announced that he intended to launch an inquiry into the pandemic in the first half of 2022. The exact aims and remit - known as the terms of reference - will be announced closer to the start of the inquiry next year.
What is a public inquiry?
The job of a public inquiry is to respond to “public concern” about a particular event or set of events - such as the pandemic. According to a leading specialist lawyer, it must ask three questions:
- What happened?
- Why did it happen and who is to blame?
- What can be done to prevent it happening again?
An inquiry has the power to make people appear as witnesses, and to provide documentation and material evidence. At the end, the inquiry usually draws up a report and makes recommendations to the government.
Previous high-profile public inquiries have included investigations into the UK’s role in the Iraq war, the events of Bloody Sunday in Northern Ireland and the phone-hacking scandal.
Who will lead the Covid inquiry?
Boris Johnson has promised the chair of the inquiry will be appointed by Christmas. Ministers can appoint whoever they like to lead an inquiry but they must be independent from the government. Judges are often used but sometimes other experts are chosen.
Who will give evidence?
The chair can call whoever they want - whether they are witnesses to an event or people with a particular expertise. Failing to turn up to evidence sessions or provide documents without a reasonable excuse is a criminal offence under the 2005 Inquiries Act.
How common are public inquires?
There are 10 currently under way - these include inquiries into the Grenfell Fire and the Manchester Arena bombing, as well as wider topics such as undercover policing and child sexual abuse.
How long does an inquiry take?
There is no time limit on how long inquiries can last but they often take years to complete. This is partly because of the huge amount of evidence that needs to be read.
The Chilcot Inquiry, which looked at the Iraq War, was published in 2016, seven years after it started taking evidence, while the Bloody Sunday inquiry took 12 years.
Dame Deidre Hine, who authored a review into the swine flu pandemic, told the BBC, “Looking at what will have to be the terms of reference and the ground it (the inquiry) has to cover, I can’t see it reporting in less than two to three years.”
I hope that the brief details posted above are informative and helpful … 
Have to take that with a pinch of salt given the controversy about the differential in testing results between pcr and lateral flow. A teacher friend said that kids can trick the lateral flow test into a positive result by drinking lots of orange juice. Such a serious problem that local shops have been asked to notify the school if any pupils are buying large quantities of juice.
There have been some articles disproving this but my friend says the science backs it up as does the evidence of certain groups of friends all testing positive to get time off school.
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Boris was telling everyone to shake hands in early march. He clearly didn’t believe in covid until he nearly died from it.
"France recommended last week that people do not shake hands to prevent the spread of the virus, while Switzerland has said its residents should consider dropping the everyday greeting of kissing each other on the cheek.
Johnson however, exhibited no such caution.
“I’m shaking hands,” Johnson said when asked how he planned to handle visiting dignitaries.
“I was at a hospital the other night where I think a few there were actually coronavirus patients and I shook hands with everybody, you’ll be pleased to know, and I continue to shake hands.
He said people were free to make up their own minds, but referred to the scientific advice he had received: “Our judgment is washing your hands is the crucial thing.”
Interesting comments here. But why did we have so many dead so fast at the start of the pandemic when Germany did not? I recall they had more cases but fewer deaths. Explanations given at the time were that they had a different approach in treating people faster and closer to home.
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Let’s assume that 10,000 kids a day are lying - that leaves 30,000 adults a day who aren’t - nearly 1,000,000 recorded new cases a month.
Shenanigans aside, it appears that the lateral flow tests can give false positives. There are now new theories about snotty noses causing this issue …
One reason was that BJ turfed out all elderly patients from hospital into care homes without any testing being carried out. Mass infection of the most vulnerable less to a massive number of deaths - 35,067, IIRC.
Let’s assume that 10,000 adults a day are suffering from colds and not COVID - that leaves 20,000 adults a day who aren’t - 600,000 recorded new cases a month.
Ah, but … how many unrecorded, untested infections occur every day - maybe due to lack of symptoms or symptoms being self-diagnosed as a cold or flu or as a result of an underlying medical condition?
Maybe 10,000 … maybe 20,000 … 
No-one knows … 
Until they come up with more accurate testing then it’s anyone’s guess how many are really infected.
The ONS figures are probably more accurate than most:
Coronavirus (COVID-19) Infection Survey, UK: 8 October 2021
Estimates for England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland. This survey is being delivered in partnership with the University of Oxford, University of Manchester, Public Health England and Wellcome Trust. This study is jointly led by the ONS and the Department for Health and Social Care (DHSC) working with the University of Oxford and Lighthouse laboratory to collect and test samples.
- In England, the percentage of people testing positive for coronavirus (COVID-19) increased in the week ending 2 October 2021 to an estimated 786,300 people (95% credible interval: 737,600 to 835,300), equating to around 1 in 70 people.
- In Wales, the trend in the percentage of people testing positive was uncertain in the week ending 2 October 2021; we estimate that 56,900 people in Wales had COVID-19 (95% credible interval: 45,700 to 69,300), equating to around 1 in 55 people.
- In Northern Ireland, the percentage of people testing positive decreased in the week ending 2 October 2021; we estimate that 14,500 people in Northern Ireland had COVID-19 (95% credible interval: 9,300 to 20,900), equating to around 1 in 130 people.
- In Scotland, the percentage of people testing positive decreased in the week ending 2 October 2021; we estimate that 84,900 people in Scotland had COVID-19, (95% credible interval: 70,200 to 101,100) equating to around 1 in 60 people.
they report the test results so if the tests are flawed any data is equally skewed
He certainly wasn’t thanks in part to his lies people voted Brexit and economic catastrophe he a self seeking liar and will go down in history as such .
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There are too many variables to make realistic comparisons, not least of which is the methodology leading to statistics.
You just can’t take the number of deaths as being accurate and that influences comparisons.
For example (figures taken from worldometers.com) look at the huge difference in deaths between The Netherlands and Belgium which are two neighbouring lowland countries:
Belgium has recorded a mortality rate of 2205 deaths per million population versus The Netherlands’ 1060 deaths per million.
Logically there is absolutely no reasonable explanation as to why a neighbouring country with similar demographics should see half the number of fatalities as their neighbour.
None.
Accurate comparisons are in effect useless because the statistics are being measured differently by each country.
Amen to that brother!
Was giving their inept business friends multi billion pound contracts a mistake? The results may have been abysmal for the voting public, but was it ever about saving the lives of those who vote & doing something effective, or was it about a multi billion slush fund for friends & family?
Lets be honest Serco was part of this & would any sane person give a company with the past reputation of Serco a contract if it was about doing something properly? As Serco has failed so many times on goverment contracts that their reputation speaks for its self. As does the fact that despite repeated fails, they still keep being given contracts & have Rupert Soames as their Group Chief Executive Officer. And Soames has numerous Tory party links, from his brother, to his Grandfather.
Grubby money, for grubby friends, from grubby politicians.
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@Omah l love your humour Omah,( brief details indeed !)
Unfortunately all wasted on me because you ignored the
primary cause of the spread of the viru, which l explained to
you in my earlier post ??
You are not the only one to ignore these facts as world leaders
are all complicit in implementing the release of the virus into
the broader environment from China ??ALL OF THEM !!
No one person can be blamed, especially as they were being
advised by scientists and also were subjected to willfull
disobedience by the populace which contributed greatly to
the spreading of the virus ?? So in fact you could say that the
high number of cases was self inflicted !!
Donkeyman ! 
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My thoughts too DM, if the general Pop had took it more serious at the start, most of what was imposed would have been unnecessary. 
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