Nobody volunteered for a global pandemic.
That’s nature for you.
Kings have tried to stop the course of nature and failed.
Just like volcanoes and floods, you cannot stop nature.
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Yes, but BJ didn’t let it in there … 
Explain Oz where despite the place being firmly locked down, the virus got in and then spread like wildfire?
Again: it is a virus.
It spreads.
That’s what a virus naturally does.
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Zaphod…he didn’t exactly pull out all the stops to prevent the spread of it though, like other countries did. I still remember the India trip he was scheduled to go on, then cancelled because the Delta variant had really taken hold there, yet he didn’t stop people travelling back and forth from India. If it was bad enough for him to cancel a trip, it should have been bad enough to stop flights. It seemed that he wasn’t keen to offend the country by doing so though.
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Indeed … after letting the original COVID-19 in, BJ, who obviously learns nothing, let the Indian (later called Delta) variant in - Delta is now the dominant strain, thanks to BJ … 
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I do believe that, yes…
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The pandemic has been a learning curve. However I don’t understand why the U.K. government didn’t look and learn from countries ahead of us with Covid at the steps they’ve had to take to help contain the virus.
My heart breaks for all who have paid the ultimate price.
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We’ll ignore the obvious shall we like the millions ignoring advice on preventative measures or even the illegals crossing the channel in the knowledge that it only takes one infection to start the spread?
And should we ignore the known fact that both domestic pets and some wild animals are known to be able to carry the virus too?
How about that the different variants have swept the whole world in waves, as a virus would because that’s what a virus does.
Not least it seems that we should ignore the fact that many of our nearest neighbours have seen similar rates of deaths from this awful virus, despite the fact that we’re the only ones that include every single death within 28 days of a positive Covid test as being a covid-related death even if the actual cause of death was something else.
Just like Canute couldn’t defy nature, neither can anybody else.
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@Omah Wasn’t this report made by a group of MP’s Omah,
What group of MPs was that then ? I believe there is an official
Parliamentary covid report coming out soon so why not wait
for that ?? Listening to all this makes Boris sound worse than
Hitler when he did nothing more or less than other world
leaders at that time ?
All world leaders arranged for their citizens to be repatriated
from China at the same time, when they should have left them
in China untill they they were cleared of covid, that way the virus
would have been isolated in China ??
But it seems that all world leaders decided to take the chance
and let the cat out of the bag by arranging flights ??
I’m not a Boris admirer but fair play to him !!
Donkeyman!
The previous two posts are very agreeable. Even if you don’t like a Fella, you don’t kick um when they are down, even though they may kick you when you are down.
https://committees.parliament.uk/publications/7496/documents/78687/default/
House of Commons
Health and Social Care, and Science and Technology Committees
Coronavirus: lessons learned to date
Sixth Report of the Health and Social Care Committee and Third Report of the Science and Technology Committee of Session 2021–22
HC 92
Health and Social Care Committee
The Health and Social Care Committee is appointed by the House of Commons to examine the expenditure, administration, and policy of the Department of Health & Social Care.
Current membership
Rt Hon Jeremy Hunt MP (Conservative, South West Surrey) (Chair)
Paul Bristow MP (Conservative, Peterborough)
Rosie Cooper MP (Labour, West Lancashire)
Dr James Davies MP (Conservative, Vale of Clwyd)
Dr Luke Evans MP (Conservative, Bosworth)
Barbara Keeley MP (Labour, Worsley and Eccles South)
Taiwo Owatemi MP (Labour, Coventry North West)
Sarah Owen MP (Labour, Luton North)
Anum Qaisar-Javed MP (Scottish National Party, Airdrie and Shotts)
Dean Russell MP (Conservative, Watford)
Laura Trott MP (Conservative, Sevenoaks)
Science and Technology Committee
The Science and Technology Committee is appointed by the House of Commons to examine the expenditure, administration and policy of the Government Office for Science and associated public bodies.
Current membership
Rt Hon Greg Clark MP (Conservative, Tunbridge Wells) (Chair)
Aaron Bell MP (Conservative, Newcastle-under-Lyme)
Dawn Butler MP (Labour, Brent Central)
Chris Clarkson MP (Conservative, Heywood and Middleton)
Katherine Fletcher MP (Conservative, South Ribble)
Andrew Griffith MP (Conservative, Arundel and South Downs)
Mark Logan MP (Conservative, Bolton North East)
Rebecca Long-Bailey MP (Labour, Salford and Eccles)
Carol Monaghan MP (Scottish National Party, Glasgow North West)
Graham Stringer MP (Labour, Blackley and Broughton)
Zarah Sultana MP (Labour, Coventry South)
Our inquiry looked in detail at six key areas of the response to covid-19, which are
outlined in more detail in this Report’s first Chapter: the country’s preparedness for a
pandemic; the use of non-pharmaceutical interventions such as border controls, social
distancing and lockdowns to control the pandemic; the use of test, trace and isolate
strategies; the impact of the pandemic on social care; the impact of the pandemic on
specific communities; and the procurement and roll-out of covid-19 vaccines. Across
these areas we have identified several key issues which have had a major impact on
the UK response to covid-19, and should be a key focus for the Government as it seeks
to learn the lessons from the pandemic. This Report, and the evidence we gathered,
are principally around the experience and the response to the pandemic in England
although we refer to aspects elsewhere in the United Kingdom where relevant.
What do we know about the upcoming public inquiry?
In May, the prime minister announced that he intended to launch an inquiry into the pandemic in the first half of 2022. The exact aims and remit - known as the terms of reference - will be announced closer to the start of the inquiry next year.
What is a public inquiry?
The job of a public inquiry is to respond to “public concern” about a particular event or set of events - such as the pandemic. According to a leading specialist lawyer, it must ask three questions:
- What happened?
- Why did it happen and who is to blame?
- What can be done to prevent it happening again?
An inquiry has the power to make people appear as witnesses, and to provide documentation and material evidence. At the end, the inquiry usually draws up a report and makes recommendations to the government.
Previous high-profile public inquiries have included investigations into the UK’s role in the Iraq war, the events of Bloody Sunday in Northern Ireland and the phone-hacking scandal.
Who will lead the Covid inquiry?
Boris Johnson has promised the chair of the inquiry will be appointed by Christmas. Ministers can appoint whoever they like to lead an inquiry but they must be independent from the government. Judges are often used but sometimes other experts are chosen.
Who will give evidence?
The chair can call whoever they want - whether they are witnesses to an event or people with a particular expertise. Failing to turn up to evidence sessions or provide documents without a reasonable excuse is a criminal offence under the 2005 Inquiries Act.
How common are public inquires?
There are 10 currently under way - these include inquiries into the Grenfell Fire and the Manchester Arena bombing, as well as wider topics such as undercover policing and child sexual abuse.
How long does an inquiry take?
There is no time limit on how long inquiries can last but they often take years to complete. This is partly because of the huge amount of evidence that needs to be read.
The Chilcot Inquiry, which looked at the Iraq War, was published in 2016, seven years after it started taking evidence, while the Bloody Sunday inquiry took 12 years.
Dame Deidre Hine, who authored a review into the swine flu pandemic, told the BBC, “Looking at what will have to be the terms of reference and the ground it (the inquiry) has to cover, I can’t see it reporting in less than two to three years.”
I hope that the brief details posted above are informative and helpful … 
Have to take that with a pinch of salt given the controversy about the differential in testing results between pcr and lateral flow. A teacher friend said that kids can trick the lateral flow test into a positive result by drinking lots of orange juice. Such a serious problem that local shops have been asked to notify the school if any pupils are buying large quantities of juice.
There have been some articles disproving this but my friend says the science backs it up as does the evidence of certain groups of friends all testing positive to get time off school.
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Boris was telling everyone to shake hands in early march. He clearly didn’t believe in covid until he nearly died from it.
"France recommended last week that people do not shake hands to prevent the spread of the virus, while Switzerland has said its residents should consider dropping the everyday greeting of kissing each other on the cheek.
Johnson however, exhibited no such caution.
“I’m shaking hands,” Johnson said when asked how he planned to handle visiting dignitaries.
“I was at a hospital the other night where I think a few there were actually coronavirus patients and I shook hands with everybody, you’ll be pleased to know, and I continue to shake hands.
He said people were free to make up their own minds, but referred to the scientific advice he had received: “Our judgment is washing your hands is the crucial thing.”
Interesting comments here. But why did we have so many dead so fast at the start of the pandemic when Germany did not? I recall they had more cases but fewer deaths. Explanations given at the time were that they had a different approach in treating people faster and closer to home.
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Let’s assume that 10,000 kids a day are lying - that leaves 30,000 adults a day who aren’t - nearly 1,000,000 recorded new cases a month.
Shenanigans aside, it appears that the lateral flow tests can give false positives. There are now new theories about snotty noses causing this issue …
One reason was that BJ turfed out all elderly patients from hospital into care homes without any testing being carried out. Mass infection of the most vulnerable less to a massive number of deaths - 35,067, IIRC.
Let’s assume that 10,000 adults a day are suffering from colds and not COVID - that leaves 20,000 adults a day who aren’t - 600,000 recorded new cases a month.
Ah, but … how many unrecorded, untested infections occur every day - maybe due to lack of symptoms or symptoms being self-diagnosed as a cold or flu or as a result of an underlying medical condition?
Maybe 10,000 … maybe 20,000 … 
No-one knows … 
Until they come up with more accurate testing then it’s anyone’s guess how many are really infected.