I don’t disagree with that Annie, but it’s an accepted fact that covid can cause long term damage, but it’s not an accepted fact by most people that the vaccines are also capable of long term damage.
Times and opinions change Annie, so things that were relevant back in the day deserve a hearing of why they went wrong…Sort of a post mortem… 
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Of course these effects are very rare because of deaths from covid is very rare.
Notice how the statement is completed and then at the very end saying it’s off topic. That’s strange
The mishandling of a covid situation is what everybody is saying. Put the world economically in the situation that it is in.
This is a situation that was never comprehensible to me you put the non-sick in the isolation that never made sense to me.
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How many Covid “post-mortems” do we need before the subject is dead and buried?
It’ll never be dead and buried Annie, both covid and the vaccines are a gift that will keep on giving and it will be years before the truth comes out. 9/11 and the war are still extensively discussed on forums and social media…
Topics might be discussed but it doesn’t change anything. It’s like a counselling session but some people never move on and need to keep going over the same arguments. We are where we are and this is yesterday’s news.
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Isn’t amazing how people were in full panic mode at the beginning of the supposed COVID pandemic. All the supposed concern of the COVID related deaths and now the concern is,
we don’t care,
don’t talk about it.
We cared so much before now we just don’t care,
move on.
Stop talking about it
we really didn’t care then and even less now
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List below published Jan 2021.
Cumulative total of Weekly deaths by age band|Age Bands|Number of Deaths|
| — | — |
|<1|2|
|1-4|1|
|5-9|1|
|10-14|5|
|15-19|11|
|20-24|34|
|25-29|70|
|30-34|117|
|35-39|195|
|40-44|369|
|45-49|694|
|50-54|1,284|
|55-59|2,186|
|60-64|3,231|
|65-69|4,596|
|70-74|7,633|
|75-79|11,066|
|80-84|15,374|
|85-89|16,547|
|90+|17,404|
Notes
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It is not being brushed under the carpet here in U.K. - we still have an ongoing Inquiry into how COVID 19 was dealt with. The Inquiry is aiming to complete public hearings by summer 2026.
I think most folk are leaving the Inquiry Committee to get on with it - there is only so many times most folk can stand to read the same old opinions and arguments about it.
I think there’s no point in keep banging on about it here in U.K. until the Inquiry has completed all its investigations - that would be like having a dog and barking yourself.
For now, I’m happy to give COVID a rest - it became a bit of a political football, so it’s good to give it a rest until the Inquiry have something to report. In fact, I was surprised to see a 4 year old thread about it being resurrected - surely, folk must have moved on in the understanding of the Covid virus in the last 4 years!
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Well that’s okay for people who want to move on boot, but this forum is big enough to cover all topics for as long as people want to post on them. We absolutely should not be living in a world where we are restricted it what we are allowed to say or post (within reason I hasten to add)
Should we go out and burn all the books on topics that folk have had enough of? I believe some bloke already tried that…
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When the death toll in Italy and later the UK reached 100,000 there was good reason to be concerned but like the Spanish flu in 1918 after two years or so it becomes just another flu as the population slowly becomes largely resistant and the virus adapted to not killing people (no virus survives if it consistently kills its host).
My Great Uncle died of the flu in December 1918 having survived 4 years on the Western Front, there was no vaccine then but we learned to live with Spanish Flu until it was replaced by Asian Flu in the 1950s.
At the time Covid was a serious threat and a pandemic but now no longer though people are still dying from it. There is no need to make it less than it was.
Deaths from Covid are nowhere near as rare as deaths from vaccine
Nobody is claiming vaccines are without any risk - but as always risk vs benifit
and claiming US has discovered anaphylaxis - as if that is a new thing or a thing unique to Covid vaccines - that is just silly.
Sure - but in this case it isnt new information - it is old information being rehashed. And none of it about lockdowns which was topic of thread.
nobody knows why some people have better natural immunity than others.
.
and different strains of Covid are stronger than others - you could have caught a less virulent strain 2nd time - or you could have increased natural immunity from having had the disease already.
Or a combination of the 2.
I would draw conclusions based on overall data though not your own study of 1 person
No idea why more defibs are now in place in UK - many possible reasons. N o reason to think Covid or Covid vaccines caused such.
I do know here in Australia defibs have become increasing more common over the last decade, a trend starting well before Covid
I would say because they are in mass production and better technology has made them cheaper and more affordable for clubs, shopping centers etc t o have.
I know many places in my town which have them - only 1 to my knowledge that has been used and that was a person who had a heart attack playing tennis, well before 2020.
yet to see anyone show any evidence of increased rise of unexpected deaths - and no, I dont believe it is something going on but we dont know of it
Interesting that you claim to if it is so top secret.
People listened to the so called professionals and look at the hoops people were jumping through. Didn’t want people to have family gatherings, want the elderly to die alone. Reporting COVID as the the cause of death when they had one or two terminal illnesses. And they were silencing those that showed the faults in the professional opinions.
It didn’t then and it still doesn’t to this day, where the quarantined the healthy.
They tried to lockdown the citizens and let illegals run free and shipping them to different locations across the country. That is why Biden is trying to get pardons for his administration because Trump’s administration may be going after them. And hope he does.
All of those stunts for less than 0.01% COVID deaths of the population.
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Sad fact, some folks will always manipulate a Human crisis for personal gain, that’s the way it is, no point banging on about it.
Of course it’s relevant to the title of the thread…Isn’t the claim being made that lockdown is more responsible than VACCINES for the drop in cases of covid? So we are debating (after the fact) that it may be true. We couldn’t have had this discussion when the post was first announced could we?
Just because you are (or had) connections to the medical profession doesn’t mean that you are always right, and your loyalty to them is to be admired, but it does tend to make you less objective and ignore what is turning out to be a very large conspiracy by governments, scientists and big pharma.
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But the establishment and governments made it a lot more than it was Bruce by attributing covid as the cause of death when it wasn’t. Was it a coincidence that nobody died of flu during the covid epidemic, when the fatalities from flu each winter are vast in the UK.
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Of course it wasn’t a co-incidence, a lock down prevents the transmission of flu as well as covid. Health authorities in Australia keep an eye on these things and flu cases virtually ceased during the lock down because no one came into the country bringing flu with them.
All the figures are here, you just have to search for them.
So how come covid still spread despite lockdown. Apparently, covid and Influenza are spread in the same way.
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Totally agree, Foxy - and that applies to my posts too - should I be restricted from posting my views while other folk lecture me that the forum is big enough to hold all views? - By taking me to task for posting my own views, you have just defeated your own argument.
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