Could Scots be guaranteed a minimum income?

So you think it as empty as the aspiration of Boris Johnson to pump all those surplus Brexit billions into the NHS? You are very selective in your criticisms, Bread. :icon_rolleyes:

Can you name one of these countries that have successfully implemented this Pixie ??

Donkeyman! :thinking::thinking:

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So you think it as empty as the aspiration of Boris Johnson to pump all those surplus Brexit billions into the NHS? You are very selective in your criticisms, Bread. :icon_rolleyes:
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Brexit billions harbie ???
Do you know something l donā€™t??

Donkeyman! :thinking::thinking:

They are actually one seat short of an overall majority Harbal but they can rely on the Greens to back them.

Investment into the NHS has been the highest under the Conservatives, Harbal. Remind me, which was the only party to actually cut the NHS budget ?

Probably.

Yes, I knew that, Scot. :lying_face:

No it wasnā€™t the SNP only got 45% of the vote.

I donā€™t take much interest in these things, but I did see a post a while back demonstrating the absolute falseness of that claim.

I have no idea. :102: But what has that got to do with anything? You are just trying to avoid inconvenient truths by deflecting attention elsewhere, as usual. :icon_rolleyes:

Thanks for that Scot, I was going to post the same.

As for a minimum income for anyone, not just the Scots, IMHO this only goes to prolong the Haves and Have Nots debate because, as incomes rise, so do day-to-day living expenses - if someone has more money in their pocket they spend more (and not necessarily on goods they actually need).

A likely story. :icon_rolleyes:

You canā€™t say that the NHS hasnā€™t received more funds under the conservatives when it has - Brexit or not, and the figure was actually Ā£350 million written on the side of the bus, which was proved to be correct in the UK courts. The actual increase in the 2021 Conservative budget was around Ā£6 billion.

The only party to actually cut the NHS budget was Labour .

And you canā€™t say it has when it hasnā€™t. Two can play at that game, Bread.

Thatā€™s a worthless assertion withoud providing documentary evidence of it veracity.

I donā€™t believe you; that is no doubt a figure arrived at by devious manipulation of statistics.

I neither know nor care if that is true, but knowing you, it probably isnā€™t.

Yes because the Scottish Parliament is voted in by the Scottish electorate and it is the Scottish Parliament that makes Scottish laws.
That does not mean just the SNP and I did not say the SNP, I said what you quoted: ā€œtheir parliamentā€.

Donkeyman :smiley: There have many countries which have trialled this idea, and for one reason or another (which I cannot find as yet) have decided to phase them out. When I posted this article, it was just out of interest - I too, am not entirely sure it can be sustained, but I applaud Scotland for at least trying. 13 countries have tried it and have reined it back in, soā€¦ :102: Take from that what you will.

I am a wee bit sceptical. It would remove the incentive to go out and look for a job for some.

Would it, Scot? Or would it mean that people could find a decent job - not 3 part time ones with 9-15 hour a week zero hour contracts? I hope people would see it that way, as opposed to sitting on their backside being lazy besoms! :smiley:

Will it mean replacing or lowering all existing benefits and having a minimum income instead?

Not exactly noā€¦it seems to be a package that includes childcare and housing benefits that will be paid directly to the relevant people. So this means that the people in receipt of this Universal Income just get to keep more of their own moneyā€¦so its like having less to pay out, not that they have more coming in.

At least thatā€™s what Iā€™m taking from it. :017:

IIRC that was tried here in Sassenachland and some of the recipients didnā€™t pay their landlords the rent (leaving the landlords well out of pocket) and spent it on drugs, ciggies and booze.

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