Could Liz Truss be the last PM of the UK as we know it?

Well them English owning (rather, being gifted by monarchs of old) great tracts of land is a bit rubbish. But being realistic one should also note the great tracts of land being bought by Dutch or Danish millionaires. So Scotland is used to foreign ownership.
However I applaud your correct use of the term vassal state. Whereas its use in describing the UK in the EU is plain wrong. Just so very wrong.

@strathmore ,. But , who do these billionaires,(:Trump included) pay the
money to, is it the state, or individuals ?
If its the state, is that money now residing in the state coffers?
Ditto for individuals ?
The whole question of land ownership needs revisiting imo ? :roll_eyes::roll_eyes:

Good question. I’ve not tracked all land ownership but I suspect the majority of land sales are private individual to private individual. Apart from some MoD land I think the majority of land in Scotland (I’m thinking countryside rather than towns) is privately owned.
As for what happens to the money - well the rich vendor goes to his/her tax specialist who then devises a scheme by which the millions gained from the sales are no longer liable for capital gains tax. (Ok, I only suspect this.)

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The Eaton Elite have made a right mess of running the UK for decades.

It is not surprising that people want a change, even a breakup.

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Maybe the whole argument, with Scotland, is about what’s under the North Sea, off the Scottish Coast?

I still think that anyone born in Scotland, and who wants to declare themselves as Scottish, even though they now live, and work, somewhere else in the World, should be allowed to vote in any such referendum.

Ireland’s a different story.

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I don’t think Truss wants anyone to leave the Union so it’s a moot point. However if you want to discuss Scotlands bid for Independence, there is a thread for it :smiley:

Sorry, I thought this thread was about the breakup of the “UK as we know it”!

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Absolutely true as it happens.

Truss is definitely the last PM appointed by Queen Elizabeth II. So, a big “Yes”

I wonder if the sad passing of the Queen will further mark the erosion of the union? Traditionally Scotland has, in the majority, been supporters of the royal family - especially since Victoria invested so much time and energy in Scotland. The long reign of Elizabeth meant so many would be sad to lose her as queen if Scotland got independence. I suspect there would be fewer thinking that about Charles, even if only because he will only recently begin his time as king.

Perhaps Balmoral will become King Charles’ foreign home.

He’ll need his passport.

Perhaps the Scots will gun down any Lear Jet crossing the border.

Presumably, the SNP have done a practice run in anticipation of independence.

No he won’t, all British passport are issued in his name (look on the first page) so he just has to say who he is. His wife will need one but all he has to do is flash his coat of arms.

What, wear this under his raincoat?

That’s the wrong one for Scotland I think but yes, that’s the idea.

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If independence happens it wouldn’t be surprising if the Scottish government put an extra tax on second homes. Visitors buying up quaint cottages in highland villages is as much a blight in Scotland as it is in Devon & Cornwall. They price locals out of the property market and leave dead villages of empty houses outside of summer and Christmas.
Balmoral is a big place so the tax would be massive!

He’s the King of England, taxes won’t worry him all the peasants will pay it for him.

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But unlike a normal second home which is largely unoccupied in the winter, won’t Balmoral be manned (and womaned) with staff that will still need the amenities present in the village? Shops etc.

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There will be plenty of time if it looks like going ahead for all the properties to be transferred to a Charitable Trust.

They plan for every eventuality, that is how they don’t pay inheritance tax.

True, but as noted earlier KC3 isn’t short a bob or two. Even if he fails (his advisors fail) to demonstrate that Balmoral is not a second home but in fact a business held by a charitable trust, held in turn by an anonymous offshore company, then he can afford to cough up a few thousand a year.

Reflecting on the opening post and the title of this thread - my answer would be ‘no’. Truss won’t be in role long enough to see the splitting away of any part of the UK. She is well out of her depth. She lacks confidence in herself and will make panicked and ill-thought through decisions. The fact that she surrounded herself with only people who supported her shows her lack of maturity and lack of confidence. It will not take long and merely a few missteps for her party and the country to round against her. Not enough time for an independence referendum and the subsequent efforts to define a split.