Coronavirus

Thanks for typing common sense Foxy, and giving a fellow geezers fingers a rest.

Cheers Spitty…:wink: Appreciate the support…

SW WA in lockdown

Yes, I’ve been reading about the two million in lockdown because of one case!

Here you can’t get some people to obey what rules we try to suggest even when the virus is rampant and they know it, with parties still being broken up regularly and big fines imposed for example.
Then people wonder why so many die!
:mad2:

There was a sudden drop in the daily deaths yesterday ??
Was this just a  monthly data adjustment ?
Plus the daily new cases  dropped also, but that is probably due to
the recent lock down!!
So it seems the new cases are definitely affected by keeping people
 separated via lockdowns  ??
So Boris  was right  to apply another lock down !!

Donkeyman!

Let’s be honest, it wouldn’t matter who was in charge and what they did there would be somebody somewhere screeching and telling them they were wrong.

The numbers are reducing but slowly, apart from deaths which, having been the weekend, will undoubtedly balance out over the next few days.
We are hopefully headed in the right direction but IMHO there are still far too many people who just do not take the threat seriously enough, for whatever reason.

Something is puzzling me…:017: (well lots of things puzzle me but this one in particular)

If most people who die with covid is on average, 28 days from testing positive, Are they able to pass on the virus until death?
And if they can, how come someone with a positive test only has to quarantine for 10 days…?..:017:

Yes and for a short time afterwards too although obviously not normally by coughing at somebody :shock:, but by for example contact. :wink:

Coronavirus (like any virus) multiplies/grows inside us and it’s that growth of infection which can lead to problems and to somebody needing hospitalisation.

Because if you’re not ill after 10 days and you have no symptoms, research has decided that you’re no longer infectious by then.
BTW, please note that it’s only if you have no symptoms after 10 days.
You can return to your normal routine and stop self-isolating after 10 full days if your symptoms have gone,.…”
If it’s more than a cough or an iffy sense of smell it says you should seek medical advice.

Thanks Zaphod, very informative and interesting…:023:

I suspect that despite all the theories by amateur epidemiologists that is largely why we have had less than 30000 cases and less than 1000 deaths since the pandemic started - go hard, go early.

People are willing to comply because it has been demonstrated to work - People have also seen what happens when you let it get out of control - Ruby Princess and the Victorian outbreak showed that.

It is not even if we are that good at it, seven countries have responded to the pandemic better than Australia according to the Lowy Institute.

Our economy has suffered but it is quickly bouncing back to near pre-pandemic levels and that seems to be the case in most if not all the countries that have controlled the pandemic well.

Covid data for Tuesday, 2 February 2021

Global Cases: 103,931,497
Increase: 408,307
Global Deaths: 2,247,715
Increase: 9,995

Australia
Cases 28,822 Change: 4
Deaths 909 Change: 0
Critical
Cases per Million 1,123

UK
Cases 3,835,783 Change: 18,607
Deaths 106,564 Change: 406
Critical 3,832
Cases per Million 56,329

USA
Cases 26,911,375 Change: 144,146
Deaths 454,213 Change: 1,934
Critical 23,860
Cases per Million 81,023

Covid data for Wednesday, 3 February 2021

Global Cases: 104,391,187
Increase: 459,690
Global Deaths: 2,262,733
Increase: 15,018

Australia
Cases 28,826 Change: 4
Deaths 909 Change: 0
Critical
Cases per Million 1,123

UK
Cases 3,852,623 Change: 16,840
Deaths 108,013 Change: 1,449
Critical 3,726
Cases per Million 56,575

USA
Cases 27,027,347 Change: 115,972
Deaths 457,856 Change: 3,643
Critical 23,673
Cases per Million 81,371

Covid data for Thursday, 4 February 2021

Global Cases: 104,907,179
Increase: 515,992
Global Deaths: 2,278,533
Increase: 15,800

Australia
Cases 28,835 Change: 9
Deaths 909 Change: 0
Critical
Cases per Million 1,123

UK
Cases 3,871,825 Change: 19,202
Deaths 109,335 Change: 1,322
Critical 3,638
Cases per Million 56,857

USA
Cases 27,150,457 Change: 123,110
Deaths 461,930 Change: 4,074
Critical 23,449
Cases per Million 81,740

just heard there are 4000 variants! Will they ever get on top of it ?

Covid data for Friday, 5 February 2021

Global Cases: 105,414,778
Increase: 507,599
Global Deaths: 2,294,412
Increase: 15,879

Australia
Cases 28,839 Change: 4
Deaths 909 Change: 0
Critical
Cases per Million 1,123

UK
Cases 3,892,459 Change: 20,634
Deaths 110,250 Change: 915
Critical 3,625
Cases per Million 57,159

USA
Cases 27,273,890 Change: 123,433
Deaths 466,988 Change: 5,058
Critical 23,159
Cases per Million 82,110

Covid data for Saturday, 6 February 2021

Global Cases: 105,907,233
Increase: 492,455
Global Deaths: 2,308,853
Increase: 14,441

Australia
Cases 28,848 Change: 9
Deaths 909 Change: 0
Critical
Cases per Million 1,124

UK
Cases 3,911,573 Change: 19,114
Deaths 111,264 Change: 1,014
Critical 3,625
Cases per Million 57,439

USA
Cases 27,407,324 Change: 133,434
Deaths 470,705 Change: 3,717
Critical 22,559
Cases per Million 82,511

There is a most interesting opinion piece on the ABC web site by a girl who was in the UK and spent a year trying to get back to Australia. She possibly caught covid three times during her time in the UK.

It also details her experience in hotel quarantine - quite a fascinating article to read.

Obviously I don’t live in London or have visited it for many years, but I read an account from a very depressed young girl trapped in a situation that nobody would enjoy being in, so far away from her home and family. The scene she described was nothing like the scene here up north. It sounded more like the Blitz than a city under lockdown. Yes, our hospitals are stretched to breaking point, as they are at this time of year every year. Covid is worse than normal though in the mortality rate that it produces, especially in the older folk.

If her test produced negative results earlier in the year it’s very likely that she didn’t have Covid 19, symptoms of flu can produce exactly the same respiratory symptoms as Covid 19. I’m as guilty as anyone, thinking that sneeze or slight sniffle is the start of Covid… Furthermore, viruses can remain dormant in the system waiting to reappear when the immune system is affected by poor diet, lack of vitamin D, or even worry…I suspect the same article could have been written by British girl trapped in Aus. But it’s just one frightened girls assessment of the situation she finds herself in.

Ms Von der Leyen has admitted that mistakes were made by the EU in ordering vaccines. According to her, they were focussing too much on vaccine development than on production and distribution. Now they need all the vaccines they can possibly get. EMA has given the go-ahead for the Astrazeneca vaccine also to be used for those over 65 despite insufficient data for that age group. Germany (and some other countries?) has decided not to use it for people aged 65 and older but says that that does not mean the vaccine doesn’t work for that age group. It’s just because of the poor data base. Now Germany wants to use the vaccine for younger folk who, otherwise, would have had to wait for months before getting their jabs.
It has nothing to do whatsoever with “getting rid of older people” because the vaccine is said to be safe.
On one point you are dead right: The UK was indeed much more forwards thinking than the EU which messed it all up.

Welcome Dachs.
I didn’t know, until I looked it up, that Dachshund means badger hound. You learn something new every day!