Coronavirus

There’s nothing wrong with the figures that you post Bruce. As good as any others especially as I’m only using them as a comparison.

You could be right about the nursing and care homes Bruce, but I think it might only part of the reason. The reduction in deaths is far too great to be attributed to just the one theory…

I thought the same Donkeyman but didn’t like mentioning it. Perhaps the virus has removed all the dead wood…:shock:

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I like the fact that Bruce posts figures for the three countries we have most members from. First post I check in the mornings and good to keep an eye on how Australia and USA are fairing.

People who are at risk have been shielding. Some people have died but there are plenty of over fifties left!:slight_smile:

Including all of us on here!

I think you are probably right, I suspect that the medical profession has learned how to handle severe cases better too, the newspapers have had many reports of successes using existing drugs to treat patients.

There was some good news this morning. Queensland had only 1 case (in hotel quarantine), NSW had none, Victoria had 43 cases but no deaths and is on track to get down to 5 cases per day in October when Melbournes lockdown will be relaxed.

The only disturbing news was that testing in NSW is down below 10000 per day, the Premier urged people with any symptoms to get tested because NSW doesn’t want a second wave.

In other news the head of the Australian Border Force says the capacity of hotel quarantine is “not enough” to allow for every Australian stranded overseas to come home at once. There is a cap on the number of returning residents allowed in each week.

South Australia’s Premier has hinted a decision on reopening the border with New South Wales and the ACT could come as soon as tomorrow.

Covid data for Tuesday, 15 September 2020

Global Cases 29,442,360
Global Deaths 932,744

Australia
Cases 26,739
Deaths 816
Critical 17
Cases per Million 1,046

UK
Cases 371,125
Deaths 41,637
Critical 79
Cases per Million 5,461

USA
Cases 6,749,289
Deaths 199,000
Critical 14,104
Cases per Million 20,366

Overnight figures for the UK = 2621 new cases with 9 deaths registered…

I’ve just checked back to 28th March 2020 and there were 2549 new cases registered overnight with 260 deaths…

I’m beginning to wonder if the reason for the recent low death rate and increasing infection rate is because there are inaccuracies in the readings or the analysing of the testing data.

That is true Annie, but as each successive peak arrives it will
eventually weed out the vulnerable, and those it misses will
be ready to die of natural causes anyway?
You may not like to admit it, but it is pointless to invest resources
on bringing people over a certain age back from deaths door as
their natural life span is over and they can never recover
sufficiently to get any quality of life again?

Donkeyman!

This is interesting. Excuse ads.

A comment on the YouTube page:

“I have known this for a long time. I was an intensive care nurse for nearly 40 years and always refused the flu vaccine. I am now 67 years old and never had the flu. My husband had the vaccine a couple of years ago and last year ended up in hospital on oxygen with the flu and double pneumonia,I didn’t catch anything. Neither of us will ever have the flu vaccine and certainly not the covid vaccine, I would rather trust my own immune system.”

My own philosophy exactly.

Yes it’s really convincing…although an experienced clinician, he’s not a medical doctor but has an academic PhD.

Do you know anything of his background or PhD specialism?

It’s teaching related to nursing. Doesn’t make him a medical doctor. I find that people using non medical PhD’s are misleading if they pretend to be medical doctors by using “Dr” as if they are.

It depends on how you use the title.

Marge also has a PhD (actually an EdD) in the field of radiography, but she doesn’t pretend to be a medical doctor.

Both nursing and radiography are paramedical professions.

It is perfectly correct to use the title “Dr” if you hold a doctorate, though of course completely wrong to pretend that you are medically qualified.

Did he pretend to be medically qualified?

I do believe that this common misunderstanding could be avoided if we did what the Germans do.

They differentiate between:
“Doktor” = an academic doctorate, and
“Artzt” = a medical doctor.

Mine too JBR, our immune systems are getting lazy, with all the cleaning products, sanitizing and vaccines. WE need to roll around in the dirt more.

Yes. I accept that it is perfectly possible that I might contract flu (without or with a flu vaccine).

If it should happen that I do come down with flu, I shall lie back in bed and allow Marge to run around after me until I’m better.

I should, perhaps, add that I’d do the same for her!

I guess if you’re not a qualified physician there’s some snobbery in whether it’s used or not, in that bandying it about may be frowned on by those who don’t.

I’m simply suspicious of anyone who does this in a you tube video where he is giving medical advice.

I’m not sure it’s simpler in Germany and I don’t recall you address a doctor directly as Arzt or Arztin. That’s the noun.

I never used to care either until I had severe flu. The people against the vaccine basically say we are better off catching flu as this will help immunity to colds. Having ended up in A&E in an agony of dehydrated fever I’d rather catch a cold thank you very much!

As far as Covid goes there is no evidence that having a flu vac will make anyone more susceptible. It may however stop massive numbers of non-vaccinated flu infected call for ambulances or be tested for Covid wasting NHS resources and stretching the system.

If you have both vaccines then your bases have been covered.