Coronavirus

I think you are absolutely right - over 200000 cases each day and no sign of it flattening out.

Just read the start of this tread. It’s fascinating how this sneaked up on us. We didn’t take it too seriously as there had been so many scares in the past. Being told to eat soup, get plenty of sunshine and vit C. :slight_smile:

Watching Arizona doctors on the news today just brings the crisis mode back. They locked down late and opened up early. Now they are dealing with the consequences of complacency.

It seems that we will all be wearing masks for a good while to come, maybe even gas masks if there’s yet another deadly virus.

Boris wearing a mask today - has he had an antibody test and found that he no longer has resistance?

Another death in Australia bringing the total to 107 and another 216 cases in Victoria.

Pretty dire down there, lets hope it doesn’t spread.

Global Cases 12,630,872
Global Deaths 562,888

Australia
Cases 9,549
Deaths 107
Critical 16
Cases per Million 374

UK
Cases 288,133
Deaths 44,650
Critical 185
Cases per Million 4,244

USA
Cases 3,291,786
Deaths 136,671
Critical 15,777
Cases per Million 9,943

Victoria has now become Australia’s pariah state with all sister states now banning their residents… Their socialist leader was too complacent by opening up before ready and now thousands of people are back in lockdown far worse than previously. The epicentre of the new cluster are a group of public housing towers in Melbourne. Residents of these high density blocks often share facilities like lifts, corridors, rubbish facilities and laundry rooms — making the chance of running into someone far greater.

Apparently there were no new infections or deaths today…

Another area ,in Lancashire , facing local lockdown https://www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/what-local-lockdown-would-look-18579788

Ah yes, Blackburn. Like Oldham, Rochdale, Bradford, Dewsbury, Leicester, and other such places.

They all have something in common, but I just can’t think exactly what it is right now.

That must be a first OGF?
For uk l mean!

Donkeyman!

I think you’ll find “no new infections or deaths today” is because today hasn’t finished yet … :wink:

You don’t get much information at the weekend. What will be released today will relate to Friday. But it’s likely understated. They usually do a catch up on Mon/tues.

I read that BJ & gov are planning yet another big reorganisation of the NHS to basically reverse all the change in the last big reorganisation which was meant to split the NHS from political control. The news reports say they plan to bring it back into direct political control. Just at the time that the NHS does not need more meddling. Amazing that it’s not making bigger headlines given the major role the NHS has played in dealing with Covid.

Seems UK deaths are back up - 148 :frowning:

Global Cases 12,844,410
Global Deaths 567,657

Australia
Cases 9,796
Deaths 108
Critical 17
Cases per Million 384

U.K.
Cases 288,953
Deaths 44,798
Critical 185
Cases per Million 4,256

USA
Cases 3,355,646
Deaths 137,403
Critical 15,819
Cases per Million 10,136

Another death in Victoria. Not good

Was a bit dumbstruck this evening when it was reported that 40% of people with Covid 19 show no symptoms at all.

No wonder it is so hard to control.

Perhaps it’s because the tests are rubbish and the 40% never had it in the first place. How else are they going to get 7 billion frightened punters to have the vaccine.

Many people don’t have symptoms of STDs but pass them on. The result is cancer and infertility. But you don’t see the effects for years. I hope this is not the same. There has been a study linking it to subsequent brain disease in those with a mild version.

I have read that too.

Recently there was an interview on a radio current affairs program of a UK epidemiologist who caught the disease and recovered BUT is still showing symptoms similar to chronic fatigue syndrome many weeks after “recovering”. He has maintained a blog recording his experiences.

You have been making these Trump like comments since the beginning of this thread yet you don’t even have the qualification of being a TV personality.

There is no vaccine and may never be yet half a million people are dead so far and we have currently no idea of the long term effects on the 12 million who have already contracted the disease.

Anyway how about a few facts:

The Cochrane Instutute (our resident anti vaxxers favourite source) reported

In a sample of 1000 people where 200 people (20%) really have COVID-19, typical of workers in a hospital setting where COVID-19 patients have been treated:

193 people would receive a positive test result but 10 (5%) of those people would not have COVID-19 (known as a false positive result);
807 people would receive a negative test result but 17 (2%) of those people would have COVID-19 (known as false negative result).

So no 40% there

A friend’s daughter is suffering in the same way. She is 28 was perfectly healthy and with no underlying conditions yet cannot recover after months. With something that can cause this level of damage to the body there are so many unanswered questions on the long term effects once it’s in the system. Time will tell whether it becomes latent like some of the other nasty viruses around.

I have just heard there are 72 confirmed cases among pickers on a farm 5 miles away and a mile from where I have spent the day walking. I am so glad I resisted the temptation to go to the shops, I know the pickers often go into town in a mini bus.