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Locally, in the San Diego area, more planes have arrived from China carrying American citizens. The planes have landed at local military bases where all persons are quarantined for at least 14 days. Those who were found to be infected were placed in special facilities which have what is called “negative pressure”. That means, simply, that when a hospital room door is opened, air is sucked in and no air can exit. Standard isolation procedure.

Naturally, all of these facilities require that all medical personnel who come into contact with any of the quarantined wear full bio-hazard suits.

The local TV news were allowed to film an empty isolation room and the news piece showed that all bedding, tubing and any other type of medical disposable equipment are carefully bagged then burned after use. Including the
mattresses. Once the patient is safe to be released, the entire room is then disinfected with some type of spray, including the ceiling and walls. The news piece didn’t happen to mention what happens to expensive equipment. I assume that they must have some special procedure to cleanse them.

I feel much safer knowing that the gov’t is going to such lengths to protect the rest of us.

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Re your post content all of that sounds good Bakerman and I’m sure you feel much safer for having read about the procedure and seen what happens .
I havn’t seen such detailed info re what happens in isolation units here.

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As I live just across the border, in Mexico, I am concerned about the surprisingly large Chinese population living here. I don’t know, but I seriously doubt that the Mexican authorities are willing to go to the same or similar lengths as do the American authorities. Somewhat worrying.

Nice people but quite stand-offish. Totally unlike the extremely kind and considerate Chinese people in Hong Kong.

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I reckon that’s what my friend must have been on about, thanks Annie.

I’ve had to stop reading, as those pictures are truly appalling and upset me a great deal.

What inhuman b****rds those market people are.
Bats? Wolf cubs? Rats, in those cages.

I am not in the slightest surprised if there is much disease there in such filthy, unhygienic, appalling conditions.

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But have they 100% proof this disease is zoonotic?

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Assman , nothing went wrong, it was a New Zealand evacuation plane. Australia is not a tiny European island.

Jumbo jets can’t land at Christmas Island so smaller plane has to be used and there were only about 35 Australian citizens on board.

New Zealand to Brisbane - about 2500km
Brisbane, Qld to Exmouth, WA - 4000km
Exmouth to Christmas Island - 1500km

The plane had to refuel at Brisbane and Exmouth to get there. Simple.

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A second Qantas flight that was set to arrive in the Chinese city of Wuhan on Friday has been delayed, with hundreds of Australians waiting to be evacuated from the coronavirus epicentre.

The more than 300 Australians who remain trapped in the locked-down city were asked to register interest in a possible third assisted departure flight earlier this week.

Some of those still stuck in Wuhan were told they had a seat reserved on the Qantas flight set to depart later that day, subject to approval from Chinese authorities, but that evacuation was delayed.

When the evacuees do get out of China and touch down in Australia, they will be quarantined at an unused mining camp near Darwin.

BTW is the the northern wet season so it won’t be a lot of fun.

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Why did the plane have to go to NZ at all Brucy? Surely Wuhan to
to Brisbane or Exmouth would be more direct?
Why go to NZ at all, even if it was a NZ plane?
Did the pilot get lost over your vast territory??
Donkeyman!

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Not as far as i know. WHO says there is no evidence.

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Assman, are you being deliberately obtuse?

As I said it was a NEW ZEALAND plane, obviously nearly full of Kiwi evacuees with just 35 Australians. The Kiwis undoubtedly would have complained, “Why did we have to go to Brisbane? Going to New Zealand would have been more direct.”

I hope that helped.

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I was appalled looking at the pictures Mups , that woman fetching what looked like part of a bat up to her mouth .

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The Guardian updating today says

The test used to diagnose coronavirus is being rolled out to laboratories across the UK from Monday, increasing testing capacity to more than 1,000 people a day.

Currently coronavirus is tested and diagnosed in one laboratory in London, but testing will be extended to 12 labs across the country over the coming weeks.

An electron microscope image of a coronavirus.
An electron microscope image of a coronavirus. Photograph: AP
At its laboratories in London, Public Health England (PHE) has the capacity to process samples from more than 100 people a day.

Now, to ensure that the country is prepared for further cases and to speed up the time taken to get results, the test will be carried out by trained scientists across England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.

This will increase testing capacity to more than 1,000 people a day for England.

Prof Yvonne Doyle, PHE’s medical director, said:

Once China confirmed that they had identified a novel coronavirus, Public Health England was ready to test potential cases in this country.

We have now trained scientists in labs across the UK to conduct the specialist test – ensuring that we are well prepared should we begin to see an increased number of cases across the country.

The test, developed by PHE, made the UK one of the first countries outside China to have assured testing capability for the new coronavirus.

When a clinician suspects coronavirus in a patient, they take samples from the nose, throat and deeper respiratory tract and send them for laboratory testing.

Using the diagnostic test, scientists can look for evidence of the presence of any type of coronavirus and then hone in on specific genetic clues that identify the novel coronavirus associated with this outbreak.

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Yes, I agree. Turns your stomach don’t it.

But that market Zuleiker, was absolutely filthy. Blood and guts everywhere.
How can they be allowed to sell fresh meat uncovered, unwrapped, no refrigeration, and no protection from the elements?
It must have been crawling with flies and maggots.
No wonder there is disease!
Then they’ve got the nerve to blame the animals!

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Apparently Mups those are markets that attract the tourists !
Imagine that ?
Not my idea of sightseeing .

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Ghouls.
Why would anyone want to visit dead animals, or live ones being terried and crammed in to cages?

If only people condemned those places, they would have to shut down.
Don’t they have the equivalent of our Meat Inspectors or Food Hygiene Laws I wonder? No equipment sterilised?
Are there no laws about unlicenced people, amateurs, being allowed to slaughter?

Can you imagine the outcry if in our public markets, the stallholders stabbed, or beheaded live animals for all to see?
The children there must grow up thinking that is normal and will no doubt go on to copy what they’ve seen.
Our kids would probably be traumatised!

I am really struggling to comprehend this incrediblyvile, backward behaviour.

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Hi

The Economic effects are starting to show.

Vast amounts of components are made in China and this is starting to affect production worldwide.

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The BENIFITS of globalisation Swimmy???
So be it!
Donkeyman!

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It could send our prices through the roof. China has been sustaining our standard of living for the last three decades.

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It could cause a global depression.

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Hopefully what has happened will stop this awful business for good Mups.