One of those will be Dominic “The Dome” Cummings, of course … 
He makes a lot of sense Cinders ?
Particularly with regard to his ideas about New Zealand?
I also believe that although we are not happy with the deaths we
are suffering at the moment, future generations will feel the benefits
of having less old and sick people to care for in the future, and if
as seems likely, the disease stays prevalent amongst us the life
expectation of humans may get lower and so equilibrium may be
restored to society again??
Donkeyman!
From same article dated May 2020:
Writing in The Lancet, he predicted that 'everyone will be exposed to [the virus] and most people will become infected' because of how contagious it is.
While conceding that flattening the curve of infection is important to stop hospitals being overwhelmed, he said the goal should not be to stop the spread entirely.
‘There is very little we can do to prevent this spread,’ he said. 'A lockdown might delay severe cases for a while, but once restrictions are eased, cases will reappear.
Exactly what has happened.
Well said Donkeyman, letting nature take it’s natural course.
Surely, equilibrium will be restored to society sooner if the Over-50’s volunteer for extermination … 
If that doesn’t bring forth the required numbers, say 10,000,000 in the UK, then the army should be brought in to round up the unenthusiastic for target practice … :!:
If you’re referring to the the so-called “herd immunity” process then, AFAIK, it has never worked in a human context without mass vaccination.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31924-3/fulltext (extract)
The phrase seems to have first appeared in the work of American livestock veterinarians concerned about “contagious abortion”—epidemics of spontaneous miscarriage—in cattle and sheep. By the 1910s, it had become the leading contagious threat to cattle in the USA. Farmers destroyed or sold affected cows. Kansas veterinarian George Potter realised that this was the wrong approach. Writing with Adolph Eichhorn in 1916 in the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association, he envisioned “herd immunity”. As he wrote in 1918, “Abortion disease may be likened to a fire, which, if new fuel is not constantly added, soon dies down. Herd immunity is developed, therefore, by retaining the immune cows, raising the calves, and avoiding the introduction of foreign cattle.”
How is herd immunity achieved?
Herd immunity and COVID-19: What you need to know - Mayo Clinic. (extract)
There are two paths to herd immunity for COVID-19 — vaccines and infection.
Vaccines
A vaccine for the virus that causes COVID-19 would be an ideal approach to achieving herd immunity. Vaccines create immunity without causing illness or resulting complications. Herd immunity makes it possible to protect the population from a disease, including those who can’t be vaccinated, such as newborns or those who have compromised immune systems. Using the concept of herd immunity, vaccines have successfully controlled deadly contagious diseases such as smallpox, polio, diphtheria, rubella and many others.
Reaching herd immunity through vaccination sometimes has drawbacks, though. Protection from some vaccines can wane over time, requiring revaccination. Sometimes people don’t get all of the shots that they need to be completely protected from a disease.
In addition, some people may object to vaccines because of religious objections, fears about the possible risks or skepticism about the benefits. People who object to vaccines often live in the same neighborhoods or attend the same religious services or schools. If the proportion of vaccinated people in a community falls below the herd immunity threshold, exposure to a contagious disease could result in the disease quickly spreading. Measles has recently resurged in several parts of the world with relatively low vaccination rates, including the United States. Opposition to vaccines can pose a real challenge to herd immunity.
Natural infection
Herd immunity can also be reached when a sufficient number of people in the population have recovered from a disease and have developed antibodies against future infection. For example, those who survived the 1918 flu (influenza) pandemic were later immune to infection with the H1N1 flu, a subtype of influenza A. During the 2009-10 flu season, H1N1 caused the respiratory infection in humans that was commonly referred to as swine flu.
However, there are some major problems with relying on community infection to create herd immunity to the virus that causes COVID-19. First, it isn’t yet clear if infection with the COVID-19 virus makes a person immune to future infection.
Research suggests that after infection with some coronaviruses, reinfection with the same virus — though usually mild and only happening in a fraction of people — is possible after a period of months or years. Further research is needed to determine the protective effect of antibodies to the virus in those who have been infected.
I don’t understand your reply Omah. 
I was just asking why aren’t the Nightingale hospitals used more, and that the hospital staff were asking the same question.
Is there something wrong with asking that? 
AFAIK, you think that BJ is “doing his best” and people should “pipe down” unless they can do better. Then you tell us that hospital staff are questioning government policy. I suggested that, perhaps, those hospital staff should follow your preferred course of action unless, as you say, they can do better.
Let nature take it course allow something to happen without trying to control it.
Treating an active infection is another matter. There’s a pharmaceutical cure for only one virus: hepatitis C. Because of the “kill the virus, kill the host” problem, the best bet is often to slow the virus down enough that the body’s own defenses can do their job.
“When we can’t kill a virus, the best thing we can do is stop them from replicating,” said Raed Dweik, chair of the Cleveland Clinic’s Respiratory Institute in Ohio. “All we can do is shorten the period of infection, not cure. Even when the infection is over, the patient is more recovered than cured.”
A global push is on to develop a vaccine to slow the spread of Covid-19, and experts hope several will be ready in 2021. Yet even with one, the coronavirus is likely to remain with us for years, demanding long efforts to find a cure for those who still fall sick.
Those with the least resistance likely to succumb.
I can’t read that article without creating an account, which I’m not prepared to do.
Same here, Cinderella.
The harsh reality of covid, it can be contained not eradicated.
Well, it won’t be contained if you let nature take its’ course … everybody’s granny will die, if not from the virus then from lack of care and treatment, and everyone else will be infected, and not necessarily recovering …
For those with weakened immune system due to age and or other medical conditions triage is likely to be the process used.
Omah … you’re scaremongering.
It’s a bad situation and it doesn’t really help when people selectively cherry pick the statistics they like to put the government in a bad light.
Certainly there have been serious errors of judgement but to focus solely on the inadequacies of the fight against Covid is only guaranteed to make already worried people more anxious.
Sad to say you almost sound like you’re thriving on it… and yet, still never say what you would do to keep everyone safe, protect the economy and eradicate the virus , all at the same time.
Any ideas you’re modestly keeping secret from us?
I found this on Face Ache a few minutes ago. It seems pertinent to this thread ATM.
Ditto, harsh reality all the same.
Don’t read the thread if you can’t handle government statistics …
It’s a bad situation and it doesn’t really help when people selectively cherry pick the statistics they like to put the government in a bad light.
There’s no need to “cherry-pick” - they’re government figures … :shock:
Certainly there have been serious errors of judgement but to focus solely on the inadequacies of the fight against Covid is only guaranteed to make already worried people more anxious.
It’s a good job you’re not on a War Cabinet - you’d let the enemy blow us to bits … 
Sad to say you almost sound like you’re thriving on it… and yet, still never say what you would do to keep everyone safe, protect the economy and eradicate the virus , all at the same time.
I’m not thriving on it but I am concerned that the situation has got so far out of hand and yet BJ and his Cosy Coterie are failing miserably, despite spending hundreds of billions of pounds, to make any dent whatsoever in the thrust of the pandemic, especially with the abortive Track, Test and Trace system overseen by “Incompetent” Harding … 
BJ’s slow response to dealing with the pandemic killed my brother-in-law and the lack of a proper T, T & T system, which should have been provided by Harding by now, will probably kill me - it will certainly kill tens of thousands in the coming winter … 
Old Version:
https://i.ibb.co/C2G7L5N/UK-Summary-20201101-Old.png
Total recorded cases OVER 1,000,000 … and rising … :!:
New Version:
https://i.ibb.co/HB42bx5/UK-Summary-20201101-New.png
Cases at a terrifying high*, deaths rising fast, hospitalisations increasing fast, test capacity increased to 480,000 (new centre online?) but processing nowhere near that figure … 
*ONS estimate “real” total is over 50,000 a day … :!:
*Imperial College London, in their React-1 study, says the pace of the epidemic is accelerating and estimates the number of people infected is now doubling every 9 days with the current daily rate of infection at 100,000.
FWIW, I should point out that the graphs and the figures contained therein are kindly provided by H. M. Government - readers may will to follow the link provided to verify that this poster has not “cherry-picked”.