Only cowards kick dogs who don’t kick back and make them cry out in pain as demonstrated in the video above (post number 5 ) :twisted:
… and punch them in the throat in another video 
No he’s not a coward at all.
He’s a man who deals with difficult dogs that have been spoilt by useless owners .
“This is a scene from the 100th episode special of the Dog Whisperer. This is Todd Henderson, a crew member explaining how he ‘sets the dog off’, so they can get the bad behaviour on film”
“In this clip, they take a known aggressive dog and deliberately provoke an attack. Cesar just laughs about it, completely unaware the he has just reinforced the behaviour he is supposed to be eliminating”
For goodness sake, it’s only for the good of CM’s pockets!!
I’ve worked in rescue. I’ve seen many abused dogs rehabilitated without any kicking, etc. There ARE better methods than CM’s.
BTW, all the American (Canada and the US) rescue organizations I’ve worked with/seen/read about abhor CM’s style of training.
Another example of the so-called ‘tap’.
In this video, the dogs are friendly, but are excited, and are jumping on the owner.
Watch when CM ‘taps’ one of them. Note the dog is no longer excited, but is displaying fear.
There’s a good chance both of those dogs became foot shy if that training continued
I have been trying to find this video it seems to have been withdrawn …
Several instances of cruel and dangerous treatment – promoted by Millan as acceptable training methods – were documented by American Humane, including one in which a dog was partially asphyxiated in an episode. In this instance, the fractious dog was pinned to the ground by its neck after first being “hung” by a collar incrementally tightened by Millan. Millan’s goal – of subduing a fractious animal - was accomplished by partially cutting off the blood supply to its brain."
Americanhumane.org - ‘Dog Whisperer’ Training Approach More Harmful Than Helpful – September 6, 2006
Meg this is a fruitless discussion .
I think he’s great with difficult dogs you don’t .
You aren’t going to change my mind because I have seen more badly behaved dogs the product of over indulgent and useless opinionated owners than anything else .
And these dogs always end up hurting someone’s else’s child or pet .
Sometimes but they get hurt themselves and then they blame the dogs behaviour on anyone but their own uselessness .
I have personally known dogs to be euthanised when they could have been rehabilitated ,
Why because they were not bad dogs but the owners didn’t handle them right made excuses for their bad behaviour and in the end they were put down .
Now you would not allow a nasty child or teenager to pick a fight with other kids in your presence of attack visitiers to you home so what should a dog be so indulged and excused .
There is never any need in the normal run of training to hurt an animal in any way .
But dogs like young people who have not learned to behave have to have firm handling preferably with someone who cares for them enough to really change their behaviour .
I note you made no comment on the completely changed dog Hollie -the dog who bit him on TV ( and he didn’t hide it away he let it run so people could see things don’t always go right even for Cesar.
But he adopted that dog and if you speak Spanish ( I do ) you will hear the good things he’s says about her .
He could see she was a good dog but the owners could not handle her and were afraid of her he said she is such a good dog she helps him rehabilitate other dogs .
You can see for yourself how she loves him .
That is not a dog that is afraid it is a lovely friendly Labrador it’s true nature brought out by Cesar .
And that is what he does he rehabilitates dogs .
I suspect that neither you or I could take on some of these dogs .
And indeed for many some were a last resort .
There are many dog trainers in the world some get results some don’t he does and so saves dogs from miserable lives or even death .
And I think that is great !
I was trying to find that one too (I think it was the same one!).
I did however find the Shadow video if anybody wants to see it?
A 2013 update, that I think many will find interesting.
"Shadow’s original rescuer writes, “I found out that the scene where he bites Cesar they had been working him up for an hour before they got that clip, turns out it is all about the show and not the dog. They deliberately bait the dogs to get them to react. We did contact the producers and I think they persuaded the woman to give Shadow back to the rescue, as she was determined to not give him back to us, she even refused to talk to the lady that runs the malamute rescue.”
The man has a love for dogs it not just for money .
I’ve worked in rescue. I’ve seen many abused dogs rehabilitated without any kicking, etc. There ARE better methods than CM’s.
BTW, all the American (Canada and the US) rescue organizations I’ve worked with/seen/read about abhor CM’s style of training.
These are NOT ABUSED DOGS ( which are more often than not pathetically grateful for being rescued .)
These are for the most part the spoilt ,ill trained dogs of incompetent owners .
I am not interested in what other Canadian or American trainers you have met think - i am interested in what I think as a person who has dealt with rescued and difficult dogs that other people don’t want to deal most of my life .
I only mentioned abused dogs because they are the hardest to rehabilitate.
I’ve also dealt with and seen many dogs that have not been trained or badly trained.
They CAN all be rehabilitated using positive reinforcement.
ETA: If anybody’s looking for a trainer for their dog, please take note of the videos in this thread, if not the comments.
There are a lot of good positive reinforcement trainers that can help with your dog without making them fearful.
I found where the video was Jackie , this is the message posted on many videos which showed abuse like the episode where a little dog was sitting on the back of a chair barking at people and CM picks it up with one hand around its throat leaving its entire body dangling without support.
No you are quite wrong rescue dogs they are not the hardest to rehabilitate at all.
They have been abused and so are grateful and often times and wary .
They are compromised and come with baggage but it rarely viciousness .
I have rehabilitated many rescue dogs successfully .
Most dogs that bite are not abused they are ill trained dogs often aggressive breeds from homes where they have not been properly socialised or trained.
People buy these breeds Akitas , Rottweilers ridgeback and pitbulls any dog even Great Danes Labradors and beagles can be aggressive at times . All these dogs can be lovely loyal safe pets IF they are given proper basic training . Trianing as with a child need time and someone who understands animals .
That is the problem
You are making a lot of generalisations.
I do agree though that basic training when the dog is a pup would save a lot of hassle later on.
I’m not going to argue with you. You won’t agree that any methods, proven methods at that, mentioned in this thread, other than CM’s, are better for the dog. I really wish you would consider them one day.
Ciao - that’s me out of here.
I agree Jackie, abused dogs are the hardest to train and rehabilitate , they often ‘close down’ with fear so can’t take in what you are trying to teach them . It can take a long time to win their trust before you can teach them anything…
I have not had a dog of my own that was not a rescue / abused dog for over 30 years . I have loved them all and they loved me.
I don’t expect them to compete in obedience trials or do agility tests .
I do expect them to be amiable well mannered members of my family both human and canine
None have attacked other dogs or people whilst living with me although several had previously .
I have done my best for them and been rewarded by their love and faithfulness .
Because I am on their wave length .
And I see that Ceasr Milan whatever you think of his methods has a fantastic rapport with dogs .
He is right on their wave length and they love and respect him
I suspect that much of the bad press he gets is from would be trainers who just don’t have the same rapport .
Rapport with animals is something you have or you don’t .
No amount of qualifications and pontification on method will give that rapport if it’s not there in the first place .
Animals know this instinctively and that is why they often misbehave with the very owners who love and care for them and behave with someone who is on their wavelength .
Children are the same they respect some teachers and disregard others.
They know exactly with whom to behave and who to ignore .
That’s how it is . 
I have not said that .
That is YOUR erroneous perception.
I am open to any methods that work .
Like people dogs are not all the same
I consider everything so don’t worry yourself about that .
Dogs can walk on slippery floors just the same as we do with care.
I have lived most of my life in hot countries where all the floors are either tiles or wooden i can assure you that big dogs do not break their legs or hips at all .
Nothing to be ashamed of, Muddy. There were times when I admired Michael Jackson, Barack Obama, Bill Cosby, Mother Teresa, John Lennon, Ian Smith, Barbara Streisand, Bill Gates, Margaret Thatcher, Tom Cruise, Oprah Winfrey, and the Dalai Lama. And look what awful people they turned out to be. We just move ahead! http://kitmccallum.com/graphics2/sunshine.gif
Well we have to agree to disagree there, we put down laminate, molliepops Duncan and Rosie all fell at various times ( retriever cross, Yorkshire terrier and chihuahua) molls got so scared she stopped moving around the flat, so we put rugs and carpets back down. Happy dogs, no more fear of injury. Vet was pleased he said he had seen far too many hips and back problems from slippery floors in his time.