Central Heating - It’ll be freezing this Christmas

We have E7 in our flats and the people above me have cottoned on to this. The woman on the top flat admitted that she did it but when I happened to mention I could hear it she agreed to stop. I asked how she could sleep with it! She just said she closed her doors. Our flats have very poor sound insulation and if I can hear her machine 2 floors down, why can’t she hear it herself? There is no way I would run my machine in the middle of the night. Heck, I could hear a pin drop! The wash cycle is ok: it’s the spinning that goes on forever.

Our heating and hot water is controlled by E7 too.

If I could outlaw two things, it would be running washing machines in the night and of course laminate flooring.

Not at all - that is some very useful advice, thank you :smiley:

Thanks Lia, but the cost of running my central heating isn’t the issue, As I said in my first post, my boiler is 40 years old and has now been put AT RISK, so I am choosing not to use it again for safety’s sake, and I can’t afford to buy a new one, but thank you for the valuable information you’ve supplied for others.

I have back-up plans so I will most definitely not be succumbing to hypothermia. I was highlighting the fact that those who are, and who are not entitled to a new boiler, is unfair. Not everybody on a pension is on benefits, and nor do they necessarily have thousands saved up in the bank, but this seems to have escaped the Government’s modus operandi of qualifying, which doesn’t particularly surprise me :wink: Mayhap I shall write to my local MP, whoever that is! :mrgreen:

Absolutely agree about the laminate flooring, sounds like our upstairs neighbours have hobnailed boots on when they walk around their living room. Mind that isn’t as bad as their loud music and loud swearing. Outlaw flats I say LOL

That scheme is annoying us too our boiler is now obsolete so no more repairs if it goes wrong, can’t afford on low wages to replace it but our neighbour who has not worked in years has just had his replaced for free.

Hi Julie and Mollie

I did read your post Mollie, I just went on a bit of a rant - sorry!

I understand that it is boiler replacement that is the issue for you. It is really awful, as you say, that those claiming benefits can get new boilers on various schemes where anyone managing on their own pension, does not qualify. Life is just unfair.

The only thing I can suggest (and please remember that it is some time since I was involved) is to check with Age Concern…or a similar organisation. If there are any schemes to help with boiler replacement, they will know. For any ex-service people, the British Legion used to be wonderful, they helped people with fuel debt and supported them in lots of ways. I have no idea if this is still the case.

I have no idea what you do with neighbours and laminate flooring, in flats. I did think that environmental health could get involved? I know new properties have to have adequate sound insulation (not sure what “adequate” is of course!

My house is terraced - but as it is 150 years old, and in the country - so it has 2 foot thick stone walls - so luckily I can’t hear a thing! It is very hard to heat though!

Lia

Ophelia, legally I couldn’t do anything about the laminate, except endlessly harass the owners of the flat above me! When she first moved in some years ago I caught her in the act of getting it down and flew up the stairs to ask for it to stop, citing noise disturbance.

She went ahead and for years afterwards, especially when she moved out and put tenants in I complained all the time!! Early this year, in between tenants, they finally replaced it with carpet.

I still have issues with their tenants, slamming doors and windows, but I tirelessly complained about that too! They have been spoken to.

There was a case recently where people were troubled by a woman walking in stilettos across her wooden floor and they lost! Therefore, I couldn’t take them to court, could I, and risk losing all my savings?

The law is a bit grey I think on laminate. It may look nice and be easy to sweep and clean, but users MUST realise the impact it has on people living close by. It is a nightmare. Been there done it.

Where were we…?

Oh dear, we are on top of three floors and we have laminate flooring, but we did use the thickest insulation underneath. Daft thing is the guy on the floor below constantly whinged about hearing us walk/talk before laying it, but has said nowt since. Mind you according to other tenants he has grumbled to everyone about just about everything since he moved in. As the elderly lady next door to me said, “some people never get the hang of living in a flat, and the give and take that has to become part of life.”

Sorry, don’t agree with that last bit! There’s no ‘give and take’ in my personal circumstances with tenants who, night after night after night, keep me awake! I own my flat (from new, 19 years), they have been tenants since early this year. They take,take,take!

If people are causing misery to others on a continual basis, then it’s only fair that they are made aware of this and given the chance to put things right.

My head is pounding at the moment, despite many painkillers. Stress!

Have you approached environmental health? Had the noise level monitored? Kept a diary of the disturbances? I suggest you do all these, inform the people you are doing so, and also contact their landlord.

Failing these actions invest in some earplugs

Well my central heating went on yesterday - I have a rotten cold, am shivering, aching and feeling thoroughly sorry for myself :frowning:

Done all that! They’ve been written to by letting agency (who were not obliged as they don’t manage it), and the housing association. They have been told verbally by owners and HA. I sent recorded times to EH, landlords and HA. And I am still keeping a note. I tell you, it’s exhausting!

It’s not like I have a night off: it’s every night. He comes home from work, then they go out for the evening, come back any time; 11.30pm, 12.30am, 1.30am. Etc. doors slamming, windows slamming, washing machine going on, things going bump on the floor above me. The noise can go on till gone 2am. If they have a night out they have obviously been drinking because the visits to the bathroom are endless. I hear the toilet flushing and light clicking on/off (I swear they don’t wash hands!), and they used to keep slamming the door, but that part has stopped.

Oh poor you! Wish you better soon.

Just seen this Kal :frowning:
Wish there was a cure for the rotten ‘cold’ - makes you so miserable - speedy recovery wishes, plenty of Vit C and zinc needed …xx

This is the third attempt at writing this… we started the vitc and multivits yesterday,probably end up with double pneumonia but at least we are trying.There are a few colds already around and about.The heating is on also though I do try not to put it on, its so expensive. What with snow forcast next month and strikes its going to be a grand winter.

Bit chillier here today still not giving in to the heating though, also very wet today which isn’t helping us feel any warmer with it lashing against the window panes.

I still only have the tiny rad on in the hallway. I have storage rads on E7 and it’s an expensive form of heating. I put my leccy blanket on to take the chill off but sometimes when I’m just about to jump into bed I get a hot flush! Damn.

Thank you Pats and Jazzi for the sympathy, it works wonders :smiley: nose only dripping today instead of running (went through two and half kitchen roles yesterday blowing my nose and now I could do a good stand in for Rudolph :lol: )and aches have eased up to more headachy than anything so it was definitely a cold and not flu thank goodness.

Glad you’re feeling better today, Kal. Or Rudolph, if you prefer :slight_smile:

Yes, me too b-v. Glad it’s not the flu. I use kitchen paper now for nose blowing. When I have a cold I buy packets of the stuff (the cheaper ones) instead of tissues, so much cheaper, and take a roll out with me if day out/working. Well, not worked in ages, but did used to!