Brexit benefits - where are they?

The crunchy iceberg lettuce, the gherkin and there’s something in that mayo than brings back childhood memories of Heinz Sandwich Spread.

At least that bloody clown seems to have disappeared!

No, sadly he’s still posting and moaning.

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Looks like Brexit must have caused more stress in France and Germany than it did in the UK:

You are so missing out!

I don’t remember crunchy anything in a big mac. Perhaps things have changed since I last had one. It all used to be wilted. The meat was like something from a cat food tin. Burger King were in another league. Theirs were pretty decent.

One benefit of Brexit is that Burger King is called Hungry Jacks in Australia (though it is possible that it might have nothing to do with Brexit)

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How do you know ? :grinning:

My cat told me

Who’s she? the cat’s mother!

That is an interesting reaction from the Express. One wonders what benefits the Express has in mind to “talk up”? Nearly two thousands posts on and this thread is struggling to find any.
This seems like a reaction to moves to regain close and sensible cooperation with the EU. There are plans for the UK to rejoin the EU Horizon programme for science. There is even an-ex Tory minister proposing visa free travel & work for under 35’s in both directions. This is to help address worker shortages in agriculture and hospitality in the UK plus it gives education and opportunities for UK young people. Both are clear signs that the direction of travel is away from Johnson’s very hard Brexit towards a more sensible close relationship. I suspect that the Express’ article in partly in response to these signs.

Dutch government collapses and Rutte resigns.

Funny, what was I saying ?

Macron next.

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The UK is joining Horizon because the EU have begged us to do that. Without the UK’s innovation the EU 27 are finished. We are the nation that invented everything.

The UK has a big shortage of workers because of our high employment rates - far higher than the EU and especially in youth employment. Recruiting EU workers under our immigration scheme makes sense as does recruiting workers outside of the EU. We are in a position to do that, unlike the bankrupt, failing EU which has eye watering levels of unemployment.

The area we need to be careful about is to not appease UK industries wanting cheap labour from the EU that has stifled wage growth in the UK in the past when we were members of the block. Now we are free of it we can set our own immigration rules with visas etc.

Watch those French farmers Strathmore … and watch Macron.

What you are saying is that for both the science programmes and for key workers that the UK needs that close relationship with the EU and vice versa. I agree. Which used to be called the UK being in the EU. What exactly then was the reason for Brexit?
As I’ve noted before, now that the ERG & Farage-like people are increasingly on the side lines the slow progress back to as sensible relationship with the EU can start. It already has with the Windsor agreement. Its like that saying about being in a hole and stopping digging. In fact the grown ups have noticed that stopping digging is not enough and its necessary to start climbing out of the hole. The bleating, blinkered BRINO crowd still have their spades in their hands and want to dig deeper into the poo. No, thanks, not any more.

I didn’t say that at all

I said that the EU needs the UK for Horizon and the UK needs immigrant workers from all over the world including the EU, however it must be on a visa basis and so as not to import cheap labour like we did as a member state.

Stop twisting my words and making things up. Come up with an argument that makes sense.

The Windsor Framework is a disaster by the way.

Brexiteers want an independent sovereign nation who’s laws are made by their own governments, held accountable as a democracy by the people.

All remoaners care about is money.

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Here comes another blow to the EU.

Where is the Brexiteer campaign for PR rather than the rather shoddy version of democracy that exists in the UK? Nope, Brexit was about immigration and the north kicking the Tory elite.
And if those who think Brexit was a dumb idea, executed dumbly by a bunch of dumb politicians then how come its all about money in your eyes? I thought you keep calling them socialists…

PR ends up in coalitions where decisions can never be made and progress never happens.

Brexit was nothing to do with the north kicking the tory elite, the tories got an 80 seat majority in 2019, dopey.

I never said

Brexit was a dumb idea, executed dumbly by a bunch of dumb politicians then how come its all about money

… I said remoaners only talk about money, which, strangely enough you continue to do :lol:

Name one country in the EU which has more Nobel prizes than the UK.