Brexit benefits - where are they?

That Tory rebellion is well under way under the branding of “New Conservatives”. Keep up.

Macron’s popularity is the lowest it’s ever been, do you honestly believe he will still be in charge soon ?

Your deluded.

As for EU import checks on the EU, this is more than welcome as we will continue to buy more from elsewhere like we are doing now.

Expect an abundance of rotting produce on your side of the Channel and a lot more rotting produce being returned. Thats if you can produce anything because the Netherlands is having its farms confiscated in the biggest land grab Europe has seen since the 2nd world war and what used to be one of the biggest exporters and growers of food in Europe will be reduced to the biggest migrant dump in Europe.

You may wish to speak to your unelected masters and ask them where you will get your food from soon … thats if you have a comprehensive trade deal with other countries. Which you don’t.

I never said forced, I said lack of choice - big difference.

I absolutely agree. And there is no doubt that Dyson employing, training and developing high quality engineers is great. Especially if its on locations that typically do not attract such investment and employment. The UK should be encouraging and supporting more such entrepreneurs.
However James D decides to get all political - but only in support of profit. Profit itself is good and needed. Dyson uses his profile to protect his profits - rather than say coming up with some better product than an £800 hairdryer.

I don’t, I think he’s a hypocrite, and a vile person who’s support of Brexit did our country irreparable harm

And encouraging the likes of him and others in the chumocracy is what had brought our country to it’s knees

He was well happy to trouser millions from the EU before dragging the rest of us out

And I think he was prepare to sacrifice our countries future and back Brexit just because he was miffed over the EU regulations on labelling

And he didn’t think twice about dumping his workers in Wiltshire when it suited his pocket, no loyalty they, then?

He tried to make people go into the office during Covid

https://www.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/news/18466047.dyson-forced-change-back-work-plans-staff-revolt/

And nearly killed a worker by carelessness

And there is the case of exploitation in Mayasia that he tried to sue Channel 4 for exposing

I really hope karma catches up with him one day and his business and personal life go swiftly downhill.

I think he exemplifies everything that’s wrong with this country and our lack of values

As does Brexit :rage:

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We can track your predictions as the weeks go by. So far, Sunak is still in position and the ERG / nationalist conservatives / new conservatives nutters are on the ignored margins. In France Marcon will see out his term of office, regardless of popularity ratings. Food prices in the UK set to go up again - another Brexit benefit.
Meanwhile Europe has plenty of food, ta, and the Netherlands grows crispy tasteless tomatoes just for the UK. Why would anyone in the rest of Europe buy forced Dutch produce when they can getter better, cheaper and more local product from just down the road? Without the lorries having to queue for hours to get through unwanted, Brexit driven checks.

Where’ve you heard that UK food prices are set to go up again all I’ve heard is that they will be coming down. Also our supermarkets negotiated the prices ages ago, so when they renegotiate they should come down further. Our food prices were previously cheaper than yours so a 15% hike on your prices are a bigger 15% hike on our lower prices. Reading this article it sounds just like what’s being going on in the UK:

https://www.ft.com/content/f1678f64-2842-418d-b151-ac9f9909515e

French finance minister Bruno Le Maire has said that 75 food producers have pledged to lower prices by July following weeks of pressure from the government for companies to stabilise food prices. The 75 producers committed to index prices to falling wholesale costs in a meeting on Thursday, and will also submit lists to the ministry next week of products that they will discount on the shelf in the short term, Le Maire said. “All products whose prices on the wholesale markets are falling must fall in July,” Le Maire said in an interview on BFM TV on Friday. “I’m thinking of pasta — the price of wheat is going down — I’m thinking of oils, I’m thinking of poultry, I’m thinking of cereals, I’m thinking of animal feed and a number of products which will be sent to me next week.” He added that the authorities would conduct checks to ensure the producers stuck to their commitments. “Trust is good, verification is even better,” Le Maire said. French food prices rose 14.1 per cent in the year to May, close to the eurozone average, and have overtaken energy as the region’s biggest driver of inflation, raising alarm among politicians and consumer groups. Some French food prices have risen faster: olive oil prices are up a quarter and eggs cost a fifth more. However, some officials and retailers believe food producers are taking advantage of the surge in inflation to boost their profit margins by raising prices more than needed to cover higher energy and commodity costs. The European Central Bank discussed this at its meeting in April, observing that although commodity prices were “falling steeply”, the prices paid by consumers for food “remained very sticky, suggesting that expanding profit margins were preventing inflation from falling”.

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Le Maire has threatened to “name and shame” companies that refuse to participate in measures to reduce food prices and to levy a one-time “windfall” tax on producers if prices do not start coming down. Most economists are confident the surge in food inflation has peaked after it fell for the past two months. In France, it has fallen from an annual rate of 15.9 per cent in March. But there is still uncertainty over how fast the surge in food prices will dissipate, and the impact of spiralling costs on consumers has been marked. Overall food sales volumes in France are down as much as 4 per cent this year, according to a retail executive, meaning that “today, French citizens are eating 3 to 4 per cent less than a year ago” — with the impact disproportionately affecting the most vulnerable households. Le Maire has also been pressuring producers to reopen commercial price negotiations between producers and retailers for the past month, but has encountered resistance from many big food groups that do not want to return to the table to renegotiate annual prices that were set in March. According to Gerardo Martinez Garcia, an economist at French bank BNP Paribas, “lower commodity and energy costs and improved supply chains will dampen food inflation” but this would happen “only slowly”. He forecast eurozone food inflation would still be at 8 per cent at the end of the year and remain above 4 per cent in the first half of next year.

That’s not what the people of Malmesbury said .
He would have extended his works but the local council proffered to give the land adjoining his factory to developers of so called ‘affordable ‘ homes . (They weren’t )
All were given redundancy payments .

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Your living in a world of your own.

I actually think you believe what you write.

Check out Macrons ratings

Check out the farmers protests and the EU giving permission for the Dutch government to compulsory purchase farms in the Netherlands.

As for queuing veg in trucks at Calais, it will all be sent back without being paid for. Just like last time.

We get better from the rest of the world and from UK sourced produce now, another win for Brexit.

So that was all it took for him for him to abandon our country and his workers completely and go abroad to make more bucks? And after helping destroy our prospects by backing Brexit?

He’s always got an excuse and someone else to blame, EU rules on efficiency, council won’t let him expand, didn’t what was going on in Malaysia, good record on health and safety up to nearly killing someone ….

I just think he’s a self-serving shyster using the “decent bloke” image as cover

I think all he cares about is money grabbing and to hell with our country and the people he exploits to work for him

May he get sucked up his own vacuum :rofl:

Happy to help:

And yes, many things are more expensive in France than in the UK. But this is about Brexit and the impact on the UK. There are many countries in the EU that are cheaper than France and the UK - so what?

I think you confuse ratings with pressure on Macron to step down. Remember Hollande - he was deeply unpopular in the ratings but saw out his full term of office.
I do not see why anyone should read up on the nitrate problem that is causing Dutch farmers to close up - when this thread is about the UK and Brexit. Start a separate thread.
I’m glad you highlighted the lorries that had to queue to deliver veg into the UK and often ended up giving up before delivering their product. This was the reason there were empty shelves in UK supermarkets. Not bad weather around the med and other lies told by the government (and dumbly repeated here). So it looks like your new prediction is that Brexit driven food shortages will happen again in the UK. You are a cheery soul.

This is what you said:

Food prices in the UK set to go up again (which is a definite statement).

This is the title of the article:

# import checks risk further pushing up food prices (which means it’s a possibility, not a definite)

This is the end of the article:

They said the government was consulting with businesses to ensure “the fairest approach that works for them, while also facilitating the movement of goods into the country and protecting our biosecurity”.

The final border strategy is expected to be released in the coming weeks.

So nothing definite about it at all, normal Guardian reporting.

And you said ‘food’ this article is just talking about fresh produce. And as you’re a Brit you’d know that majority of people don’t eat fresh produce over here. I personally have frozen rather than fresh.

The point in the article regarding the French food prices being expensive is that it just goes to prove that it’s not down to Brexit that food prices have gone up and I was reading an article the other day about how Spain is suffering. Sorry to disappoint, but food prices is a world problem.

Hmmmm looks like France isn’t too happy about the EU poking it’s nose in where it’s not wanted:

So because you prefer frozen you know that the majority of people don’t eat fresh produce ?

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Nope worse than that, they don’t have fruit and veg at all. Do you think our obesity problem is down to eating too much fruit and veg.

The empty shelves were all over the world because of the fuel crisis if thats what you’re referring to. There is no such thing as Brexit driven food shortages, thats just you lying again.

You really are in a world of your own.

I go for what I like too. I like Hetty hoover. It’s just a bonus they are manufactured in Britain. I like bosch for washing machines and boilers. One of the fridges is a zanussi, the other fridge / freezer is hoover. The zanussi was just the largest larder under counter fridge available. Dishwasher is bosch. Dryer is Bush. No idea where they manufacture Bush.

Well I don’t know where you live but I live in the U.K. and eat plenty of fruit and veg as do all those people I see putting fresh fruit and veg into their trolleys at the supermarkets .

Yup I live in the UK too and also eat plenty of veg not fruit though as it disagrees with me, but unless you know something that the OECD doesn’t this is what they estimate:

The causes of overweight and obesity are complex, interlinked and differ from country to country, which makes it difficult to pinpoint exactly why the prevalence is comparatively high in the UK. “There’s a multitude of factors involved, but certainly the quantity and quality of food eaten in the UK plays a significant role”, says Dr Michele Cecchini, a senior health economist at the OECD.

In the 2019 report he co-authored, The Heavy Burden of Obesity, Dr Cecchini found that fewer than one in three people in the UK ate a healthy diet. The British thirst for sugary drinks is part of that problem, he says. Figures compiled by market research provider Euromonitor International show we consumed an average 78 litres of sugary fizzy drinks per head in the UK last year 2020, compared with 61 litres in the Netherlands, 58 litres in Switzerland and 34 litres in Italy.

Our comparatively low intake of fruit and vegetables also contributes. While few countries across the OECD consume the recommended five servings of fruit and vegetables each day, in the UK we eat significantly less than in some places where levels of overweight are lower. For example, last year we consumed an average 101kg of fruit and vegetables each, according to Euromonitor. This compares with 108kg in Switzerland, 113kg in the Netherlands and 160kg in Italy.

I really don’t care what some the OECD findings/ estimates are they don’t apply to me .
I am not obese ,most of the people I know are not obese and eat plenty of fruit and vegetables .
Next time you go shopping ie go out to an actual shop .
Linger the fruit and veg aisle .
It’s always busy where I live .