Brexit benefits - where are they?

Then they should use the internet with their phone…Its Free

Although there is no longer any obligation for U.K. mobile providers not to charge extra for EU Roaming, there is still quite a few U.K. mobile providers who do not charge any extra.
My mobile provider (Plusnet) allows me to call U.K. numbers from EU countries within my unlimited free U.K. calls allowance, just as I did before Brexit.
I hope that arrangement continues but there is no longer any guarantee that it will.

I watched that episode of QT too and was gobsmacked by what that woman said - I think Fiona Bruce was somewhat at a loss for words too!

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# Brexit has already saved us billions

Leaving the EU has given us back democratic control over our laws, money and borders. Yet too often we focus only on the failure to do more

Yes we have all noticed how much it has given us back control of our borders .

Muddy, your art is exquisite, your needing for free European travel is tiring :icon_wink:

you must be living in a different country! :slight_smile:

when I arrive at an airport abroad I haven’t noticed the free internet connection. I have had to pre-arrange various bolt ons when I travel. Yes once you get to the hotel or resort you can get onto wifi but usually you need to ring people or roam before that.

Sydney airport and KLIA both have free wifi. KLIA offers it for 24 hours. I use it when I am there it is pretty good speed wise. I understand from my friend so does Changi Airport in Singapore.

Sydney Airport wifi, like all free wifi in Australia, is a bit more hit and miss but Whatsapp is still very useable. Of course in Sydney I don’t need it because my phone works anyway but visitors use Whatsapp to call me to collect them.

KLIA = Kuala Lumpur International Airport

Yes it’s probably easier to work these things out in English-speaking countries. But landing after a tiring flight and trying to work out how to get wifi working is a real pain when it’s in a language you don’t understand. My phone firewall also often rejects open networks as a security risk and refuses to connect me.

Many seem to have forgotten that the EU acted to address the issue of exploitative roaming charges by the network suppliers. These telco companies set up wholesale agreements with network suppliers across Europe for their own cross-border business, and then slapped punitive roaming charges onto their customers. This was an abuse of the supply constraints they themselves had put in place and was excessive charges to private customers. The EU rightly saw this as abusive over-charging. They were aiming to protect European citizen from excessive profit making and the penalising people who moved freely across EU country borders. But without the nuisance of a work around.
Customers of UK mobile providers no longer have this protection from excessive charging.

Interesting piece by the pollster, John Curtis. Essentially he has reviewed the various polls taken about attitudes to Brexit - especially views from those who did not vote in 2016. This groups falls into two camps - decided not to vote (unable, uninterested or undecided) - and those not quite old enough to vote - but at 16 and 17 quite old enough to form a view.
“On average, just over half (51%) of those who did not vote in 2016 say they would vote now to rejoin the EU. Only one in seven (14%) would back staying out. (The remainder do not express a preference.)” This indicates quite a number who regret their indecision or lack of motivation back in 2016.
And for the other group: “of those who were too young to vote in 2016 and who, having come of age, are overwhelmingly in favour of being inside the EU. Nearly four in five (78%) of those aged 18 to 24 say they would vote to rejoin the EU.”
The articles does also emphasis that for those who did vote would not change their vote: “as many as three-quarters of those who voted in 2016 would still vote the same way again. Many people’s views about Brexit are firmly held.” As we have regularly seen on this thread.

My own vote for Brexit was based on long held beliefs not propaganda peddled at the time of the referendum, as were many other people’s I would imagine. I do wonder whether there will eventually be another referendum, I doubt it but then you never know do you?

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I suspect that you are right in this assumption - as shown by the polling that says 3/4 who voted would vote the same way if asked again. That certainty does not come about overnight - regardless of which way you voted. That it why it is interesting to look at the less certain who voted and those who decided not to vote (apart from those who were not interested and remain not interested). It is surely significant that half of those who did not vote in 2016 are now much clearer in their views?

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Brexit is about to give the City a crucial edge

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You really should pay more attention to my posts I’ve explained this about 4 times to you now.

That pan-european directive that meant an EU vet had to be present in every UK slaughterhouse and resulted in the regional, small UK slaughterhouses unaffordable to run, closing down all over the country as they couldn’t afford the expensive (mostly Spanish) vets who on huge salaries stood there, did nothing and didn’t even speak English. This practice was not enforced anywhere near as much in other EU countries which is why a lot of UK slaughter involved the long journeys of livestock in lorries up and down UK motorways - an abhorrent practice and unnecessary animal cruelty.

By the way, the USA is the UK’s biggest market by country. Prove me wrong

And finally, I also posted about the UK decimation and incineration of its national herds through BSE, foot and mouth etc where other EU farms had no such treatment.

Like I said, ready my posts.

Here, for reference is the UK legislation enforced from EEC regulations on grubbing of orchards. Note the fixed penalty for planting apple trees… this favoured the mass imports of French Golden Delicious in return for grubbing orchards for grants and bribes by the EEC and the UK Government, obeying their masters as part of the Communities Act and CAP. UK farmers never stood a chance, the same happened with our fisheries where fishermen had to show proof of their burned out boats to receive compensation for giving up their livelihoods so the Spanish fleet could have it.

Note the introduction

The Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food and the Secretary of State, being Ministers designated(1)for the purposes of section 2(2) of the European Communities Act 1972(2)in relation to the common agricultural policy of the European Economic Community, acting jointly in exercise of the powers conferred on them by the said section 2(2) and of all other powers enabling them in that behalf, hereby make the following Regulations:—

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Notice the French riots being shut out of UK MSM ?

Going well over there and the EU doing a great job of keeping the peace - not.

Where are they ? Where is Von Der Leyen ?

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(small typo:) This may surprise or even hurt you: U. vdL is not the EU police and her job is not to stop riots in on of the sovereign member countries.

You have been here long enough to show that this is you typical way to blame the EU or VDL for anything. Maybe you should try something more sensible.
Or would you have asked for VDL 10 years ago when all the beaches in the UK were polluted with raw sewage?

I guess not :man_shrugging:

One minute you are telling us that the EU is not a country the next you complain that the EU didn’t interfere in the French riots. The EU can’t win.

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