Looks we have now signed up to CPTPP. Joining a block of growing economies.
Epic win for Brexit.
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Hopefully we’ll find out tomorrow:
I love this bit:-
" The CPTPP is of course a totally different organisation to the EU. It’s a genuine free trade area. It doesn’t have its own parliament or court, it doesn’t impose laws upon its members, and it is focused on opening markets, not harmonising and integrating. Trade specialists will say that this makes it less valuable as a trade agreement, but personally I prefer free trade plus national sovereignty. The fact that there are many free trade agreements around the world, but only one EU-style single market, suggests that most countries reach the same conclusion."
My bold.
Australia was a founding member of the CPTPP it has been in force since 2018 - originally it included the USA but Trump withdrew the US from it so it was renegotiated. The agreement is between:
- Australia
- Brunei Darussalam
- Canada
- Chile
- Japan
- Malaysia
- Mexico
- Peru
- New Zealand
- Singapore
- Vietnam
On 1 February 2021, the United Kingdom (UK) formally requested accession to the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP), and on 2 June 2021, the CPTPP Commission agreed to formally commence accession negotiations with the United Kingdom.
On 31 March 2023, CPTPP Ministers met virtually to discuss the UK accession to the CPTPP and announced the substantial conclusion of negotiations.
The UK is not a member of the club yet but soon perhaps - the included link gives more details
Hi
The so called huge deal is expected to increase oue exports by 0.08 percent.
Hardly a life changing win
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Got no idea, but our imports will be cheaper and it will be even better when South Korea and another country come on board can’t remember who it is now, but the economist who was on Ian King this morning was very enthusiastic. As I keep saying come back and discuss it all with me in ten years time.
Perhaps not but you will be able to eat yummy Australian pork, lamb and beef to your heart’s content, just like in the good old days.
By signing up to the CPTPP
Britain has ditched environmental standards, ( I wouldn’t like to eat meat from most of those countries barring New Zealand farming is cruel enough as it is ) signed up to terms that will undermine British farmers, and left us open to being sued by multinational corporations in secretive courts. And all for no real economic benefit.
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Before, whilst in the EU, the UK had a voice, a vote and a veto in the standards & regulation that were set. With CPTPP - who is setting the standards & regulations? It ain’t going to be the UK. And if the UK is not defining such standards, then is it actually corporations?
See also post above about environmental and animal welfare standards - this highlights the issue.
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I remember when the EU and USA were negotiating regarding the TPP back in 2015 - the fore-runner of this CPTPP - the idea that the EU might join it was one of the few reasons I would have wanted to leave EU if they had joined because I didn’t want U.K. to be in that group due to concerns about the impact on farming, animal welfare and environmental standards.
I had carefully looked at all the details of the TPP back in 2015, when we knew we would be having to vote on Brexit the next year, and I was relieved that EU pulled out - so I am dismayed that U.K. have joined - I haven’t looked into what is different about the CPTPP, compared to the old TPP, apart from a change of name.
If I could muster up the enthusiasm, I could read up all the details but I don’t see much point right now, as I won’t be getting a vote about it.
I’ll just wait and see what impact it has on our rural farming community and keep an eye on how it impacts farming and safety standards.
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No economic benefit and the Brexiter’s boasting and trying to con us into believing it’s a triumph
Instead of yet another thing to be ashamed of
More snake oil salesman stuff from the Brexiters 
And another thing to blame them for
And don’t forget food standards, environmental standards and exploitation of workers
And the sheer stupidity of trading with countries thousands of miles ago instead of your closest neighbours
But there’s no club you can join that you can’t quit, so it won’t stop us getting back in the EU
We may have to beg harder just to get back to what we had before, but it will be worth it to stop the Brexiters destroying our country and our children’s future
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I’m sure that Minette Batters knows more about farming than you:
Officials said the services industry would enjoy reduced red tape and increased market access under the deal.
They added that vital UK sectors, including agriculture and the NHS, will be protected, while animal welfare and food safety standards will be maintained.
National Farmers’ Union President Minette Batters said: “Joining the CPTPP could provide some good opportunities to get more fantastic British food on plates overseas.
“I am pleased that our government continues to maintain its commitment to our food safety standards. It is an absolute red line for us that food produced using practices that are illegal here – for instance, the use of hormones in beef and pork production and chemical washes for carcases – should not be allowed on our market.”
The CBI welcomed the agreement as a “milestone” for British industry, reinforcing the UK’s commitment “to building partnerships in an increasingly fragmented world”.
The BLT is still flourishing.
Maybe but you are wrong about so many things .
Note the use of the word “could’
Don’t forget you already have an FTA with Australia signed in 2021 so that you can get access to yummy Aussie dairy, pork, beef and lamb rather than that awful Welsh stuff grown in inhumane conditions on the side of a damp, cold mountain.
Australia had to give up its insistence on backpackers from the UK only working in remote areas to extend their visas to 2 years. I expect to see a lot more Scandanavian and French girls working behind the bar in remote roadhouses.
There is always give and take in these agreements.
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I listened to an interview with Minette Batters yesterday morning on Farming Today (on Radio 4) where she was asked about this. I thought she might be negative but was pleasantly surprised on how positive she was about the whole agreement. So yes, a good deal post-Brexit!
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Hi
The common view is a generation to claw back the financial costs of leaving.
So yes we where lied to.
The benefits are not financial, they are political.
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These lies you mean: