Brexit benefits - where are they?

David Cameron promised a referendum, remainers should vent their annoyance at him.

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Then he walked away .

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Indeed, humming.

“Thank you. I’ve been wondering what a German Nigel Farage might look like”
I fully agree with you. Some i-dio-ts made that man become a MEP (life Farage), receiving some 11000 EUR salary per month + free health care for the entire family. Now that he has left, he laughts at us.

Anyway, the AFD (“Alternative für Deutschland”) or “alternative for Germany” have around 20% of voters in eastern Germany. Not surprising, having been lied to 30 years ago like the UK has.

Anyway I would not under-estimate how many Germans are strictly against refugees or (Bravermans narrative) “illegal immigrants”. So that Mr. Beck might speak the voice of a majority in Germany. Germans are stupid…

You obviously don’t know who you are talking about.

He is a writer for the Irish Times, I looked him up and was amazed to discover he is apparently quite well known and respected. As far as I can gather he lives in Eire.

According to his Wikipedia page In 2011, he was named by The Observer as one of “Britain’s top 300 intellectuals”, although he does not live in the UK.

I do wonder at your motivation and thinking when you repeatedly post articles about what is happening in countries in the EU, on a thread that is about Brexit and the consequences for a country that has left the EU. It is as if you are desperate to distract everyone from the lack of benefits from Brexit. You may not have written a sentence that says “here is a EU country that wants to leave the EU” or “here is a EU country that has problems” - but you often share articles that say the such things. Which amounts to the same. Thus you are being disingenuous in your last post. Which is poor debating style. As is highlighting simple typos. I think you’ve run out of anything productive to say. Just admit there is no case for benefits from Brexit (apart from you feeling good about it) and we can close this well worn, well proven thread.

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He was an irresponsible, self-serving fool to promise the referendum

But I respected his decision to walk away when it went the way it did

He must have seen the disaster he’d caused

And no one with any integrity or patriotism could have stayed and worked towards enabling that disaster

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I didn’t say the reporter didn’t live in Ireland .
But loads of Irish do live in the U.K. and have done for generations .

I suspect that line of chat would require a whole new thread with a title such as “The Irish question, British rule, poverty, self determination and possible unification: discuss”. It could be quite a thread.

Due to Brexit loads of Irish who retired in Spain but were born and lived all their lives in the U.K. are smugly boasting of their Irish passports ( while collecting their U.K. pensions ) Not that I blame them I would do the same .

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You know what they say about Liverpool - They speak two languages; Irish and rubbish.

But here you can hear exactly what the irish bloke actually said

https://www.parliament.uk/business/news/2023/february-2023/lords-debates-retained-eu-law-revocation-and-reform-bill/

I know you believe you think everybody should think the same way as you do and everybody who doesn’t is wrong, but can assure you I wish every country in the whole wide word well. Unlike you who have it in for the UK and are willing Brexit to all backfire so you can say told you so. I’ve repeated enough times that I don’t believe we’ll see the true benefits of Brexit until we’ve left it for ten years.

You’ve left the country and have made a new life for yourself and I’m pleased for you if you’re happy. But you remind me of somebody who divorces his wife and then tells her how she should lead her life. Leave her alone let her make her own decisions.

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Pension reform going really well in France.

not.

Here come the yellow vests again .

You utterly fail to grasp what my point of view is. I’ve repeated it so often - I want the UK to succeed. And now that the UK is out of the EU I want the UK to find a way to make its Brexit work. In that sense I definitely do not want Brexit to fail. But I do think the Brexit we have needs to change in order for the UK to succeed.
You ignore this. You are wedded to the rubbish Brexit we have. You see any criticism of the rubbish Brexit in place today as (1) a criticism of the UK, which it is not, and (2) as weakness in suggested there is a need to change today’s version of Brexit - but its not a weakness, its just realism. Hence my view that today there are no Brexit benefits. And if it takes ten years for the UK economy to recover then that shows the UK made the wrong choice.
In the meantime, exactly what do you expect to achieve by sharing news articles about other countries? This does not look like someone who wants France or Germany to succeed. This looks like petty vindictiveness based on a worry that the UK’s Brexit choice was wrong.

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What on earth are you going on about the UK economy to recover. Haven’t you read any of the articles that I’ve supplied that other countries are going through economic pressures too. That has nothing to do with Brexit that’s just the problems of the world at large, first the pandemic and now Russia.

As I say, you keep your eyes on your own problems with your own country and I’ll concentrate on any problems in mine.

I blame it on Brexit.

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This must be Brexit’s fault too:

Still posting articles about other countries. Still not willing to understand the points I made. Just banging on about how you think everyone is against good old blighty.
Who is sponsoring your efforts?

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