We are years on from the decision to leave the EU.
We, that is our Politicians, negotiated and agreed the deal.
Boris rebelled against MAY and negotiated his own deal which he proudly proclaimed to the public as a great deal, an oven ready Brexit and we couls then move forward and take advantage of our new freedoms.
Boris even promoted our chief negotiator, Frost, to the House of Lords, he is now Lord Frost and then made him a member of his Cabinet.
Oh, but some posts on here have been saying that now we’ve deprived our youngsters of working and living in the EU. So you must now agree with me, that it’s only a minority of UK youngsters who wanted to work in the EU and it’s been far more beneficial to EU citizens than it has to the Brits.
Got it, its about going on holiday. What has that got do with Spain being “completely disgusting”? One minute you are referirng to residents and the next you are talking about holiday makers. Can you just stick to one topic? The question, to remind you, was your claim that UK residents were being badly treated by EU countries when they tried to gain residency rights.
All true, no argument there. UK youngsters are very poor at picking up languages (actually, they are not being taught languages so no wonder). So this is no surprise.
But the point is, as we know from the problems of staff shortages in the UK in many sectors, the UK benefits from this influx of EU workers. They are young, healthy, pay taxes and fill needed jobs in the UK economy. This is a good thing.
Where do you get the impression that UK youngsters don’t get taught another language I was taught French and so were my kids. You might be confusing it with kids not choosing it as a subject when they get to choose. I didn’t and neither did my kids and it definitely hasn’t held us back in our chosen fields. My daughter-in-law chose German and went onto university to study it, but doesn’t use it now.
Companies now are having to train up British youngsters and pay them decent wages whereas before they were getting cheap foreign labour and suppressing the wages.
You were trying to evidence that UK residents in the EU were being mistreated by the EU. My point was that the UK was actually quite bad at causing problems for EU residents in the UK in the processing of their applications for residency. In the EU, once each country had their process set up for applying for post-Brexit residency, they worked well and were generous in their decision making. Nothing about the rock, nothing about tourist issues, nothing about health insurance. Just admit you made up your claims and we can move on. Ta.
Your point about the UK causing problems for EU citizens is not true - we gave EU nationals settled status literally overnight. The same arrangements have not been replicated by the EU.
I also specifically called out Spain and the border with Gibraltar, which your conveniently ignoring.
Yes I was taught French but I don’t speak it fluently and I bet you don’t either .
I do speak fluent Spanish which I didn’t learn at school .
We are not IMO taught languages as well as we might be in school but people pick up languages if they are in a country for a while . A pity that will be more difficult for our youngsters they can no longer do casual work in Europe which many of them did do .
Gib was not what we were talking about.
There were 100,000’s of denied applications by the UK. EU citizens who were not given residency rights. Whereas in the EU there were many second home owners given residency rights - simply because they (wrongly) applied and wanted the benefit of protracted stays in the EU. So, again, you are factually wrong about the settled status ease and generosity.
This is getting dull. I demonstrate a fact. You make up something. Repeat. Too dull and pointless.
As I said, they teach it, but students aren’t picking it as one of their subjects to go on and study further. And by the looks of that article they want more students to learn German.
Nope I don’t speak French because I didn’t pick it as a subject and bet you didn’t either.
A friend of mine married a Turkish guy and lived in Turkey for a while teaching Turkish kids English at that time she couldn’t speak any Turkish other than a few words. She’s now back in the UK has two kids and they both talk both English and Turkish fluently.
Youngsters can still do casual work in Europe, but as I’ve said before the ones I know prefer places like Australia or America anyway and I note from a post of yours that you would like to move to Australia if you were younger.
No no, I have not forgotten “oven ready”. However those were BJs words to the UK public. I wanted to lay some emphasis on “you” did, “you” chose, “you” wanted…
