Bur France is, as you so accurately pointed out, part of the EU and this thread is about the benefits of leaving the EU which France hasn’t and you asked me if I had spoken to people in France which I hadn’t, I merely pointed out another example of high inflation who’s people I also hadn’t spoken to.
So far the list of benefits of Brexit:
Britain is not part of the EU
Which is fair enough, trying to desperately force comparisons using inflation, which is affecting the entire world, is just clutching at straws and, frankly, just plain silly.
But its fun to see ardent Brexit fans use the argument “we may be suffering but others are also finding difficulties”. And then using the argument “the UK problems are not about Brexit but about Covid or Ukraine war” and then forgetting that line when saying “we may be suffering but others are also finding difficulties”.
Here is a prediction. Within 10 years Brexit will be rolled back. Maybe a little or maybe completely. But it is a bad idea and it was badly done. The 35% or so who still adhere to Brexit as a good idea will diminish down to a paltry 10-20% within 5 years. Dear Brexit fans, your are on the wrong side of history.
The YOUGOV poll pretty much sums up the mood of the country - this is why it exists in the first place for all sorts of topics. It is more than just “one set of research”…
You’re talking about a different link on a different post.
I ignored your YouGov poll link and just rolled my eyes. A poll is a snap shot of a few people. What were the polls saying before the referendum? Yup no doubt people have changed their mind, I know a few remainers who say they would now vote to leave. Liz Truss was a remainer, but is now a leaver. It works both ways.
Inflation is due to the lockdowns and the hundreds of billions of pounds, euros, dollars etc pumped into the economy. The war in Ukraine has also caused increases in energy costs, increasing manufacturing and transport costs, driving up inflation. Net zero is to blame for that.
USA is a good example - a country with inflation not in the EU.
Do your own simple research.
The data is readily available. The support for Brexit falls each year. It was a dumb idea back in 2016 and it becomes a dumber idea with each consecutive year.
Of course you can ignore data and facts and rely on your own opinion. Enjoy that.
I am not sure that is entirely fair. The politicians on both sides of the argument lied, not only that but none of them actually believed the people would vote to leave so there was absolutely no plan developed to make it happen if they did.
I have said this before but such an important decision should have had a bigger hurdle to pass than a tiny majority, I think the 1975 vote was 67% in favour, leaving should have had a requirement for a similar majority to be successful (perhaps 65%?)
The result was the farcical situation the pollies created and which is ongoing. The actual exit was a constant game of catch up and expediency with the EU always ahead when what was needed was a staged exit planned long beforehand approved by parliament before the vote was even taken.
How Britain keeps voting for these Oxbridge morons is beyond me.
In my little town we’ve had a Polish shop for quite some years now, an Italian shop opened up about a year ago and now just this week a European shop has just opened. Things can’t be that bad if all these businesses still have confidence in trading in the UK and I would presume that most of their products are imported from the EU.
I’ve two observations on your little shops posts.
First, you are applying the “hasty generalisation” argument, one of 15 logical fallacies often applied in debates. This generalisation argument is (I quote) “a claim based on a few examples rather than substantial proof. Arguments based on hasty generalizations often don’t hold up due to a lack of supporting evidence: The claim might be true in one case, but that doesn’t mean it’s always true.” In your example, perhaps one might not accurately determine the health of a countries international trade based on a couple of shops in one town.
Second, it appears that in your town there is a real love of things European. Bit late for that but good to see the popular consensus is that the UK should get back to being closer to Europe.
Wrong our town voted in a great majority to leave. Just because we’re against the EU doesn’t mean we’re against the European people. A lot of European people are against the EU too.
