Right but…
What has it got to do with Brexit? 
Just educating Bruce again.
You can obtain joint citizenship in most countries in the world, not just the EU. I’m saying that if you have a EU passport (and are a EU citizen) you need a visa to work in the UK, just as you are a UK citizen with a UK passport wanting to work in the EU.
EU citizens with EU passports will also have to apply for a visa to work in other countries outside the EU as well - such as the USA.
I’m not seeing what your point is - I was simply stating that work visas apply both ways, even with the EU.
Yup, fair point. But my note was simply to highlight that there is an exception to people having a passport from an EU country but able to work in the UK without a visa or other permit. As we’d been discussing UK citizens obtaining Irish passports this seems like a reasonable point to highlight. Especially as you were stating that you absolutely wanted passport holders from EU countries to have a visa were they to want to live in the UK.
There is also a difference between a visa, as in a right to travel, and a work permit. Certainly the visa UK citizens can obtain for extended stays in the EU excludes work. Same way an entry visa to the US does not allow working there. In both cases you need a permit to work on top of the visa. The UK runs its points based system for this. Much more difficult to obtain than a travel visa.
So I think that you can rest easy that Brexit has meant that a Dutch plumber cannot just turn up and work in the UK. Phew.
And vice versa
Phew !
Oh dear, it appears truth and you are strangers.
Nothing was stopping them getting in there was just not the flights available - Scotty from Marketing had to arrange mercy flights.
Perhaps you need to read this to recap, instead of relying on your fondness for lefty news organisations.
India had banned scheduled international flights on March 23, 2020. During the last two years, limited international passenger flights were operating between India and select countries under bilateral air bubble arrangements.
Anything else you need to know do feel free to ask. I’m here to help.
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Your now quoting India not your own country
Here is some more on the travel bam into fortress Australia.
Crikey! you don’t give up do you? Important word “Tourism”, there is no doubt tourists and foreigners were banned from entering but citizens were not.
Anything else I can help you with?
Not sure what this has to do with Brexit though, Australia was never a member of the EU.
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Do I understand your comment correctly? You are saying that you want to reduce the number of UK citizens going to an EU country to work? You want to barriers in place to working in Europe? That’s nice, generous and open-minded of you.
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Just been into a little business run by British people in Spain .
It’s a little baked goods and general store .
But they can no longer get stuff from the U.K. ( like Cornish pasties and pork pies ,) because they don’t come up to EU standards and from the English side have to be signed off by a VET therefore incurring more costs .
So they are selling up .
It does seem that the businesses worst affected by the changes in import/export rules has been the smaller businesses. The complexity and admin effort of the paperwork is daunting. The near impossibility of sending mixed loads affects smaller importers / exporters the worse as often they cannot fill a lorry with a single product. And the vet checks of food stuffs and animals/fish cause significant delays. And we still have not implemented all the checks that the trade agreement puts in place.
This will become a drag on any chance of growing the UK economy. Small businesses should be the nimble and fastest growing part of the economy - rapidly taking advantage of markets locally and abroad. And what was the easiest to access, the quickest to ship to market has largely been closed off. Not sure this counts as a tangible benefit though.
Still, we’ve got our sovereignty back. My share of our sovereignty is surely fat and happy by now. Which shops accept this in lieu of money? I’m a bit tight on cash this month.
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You have to think Global now, this extends far beyond the EU.
I’m not saying that at all.
Try reading what I write instead of making things up.
Stop lying
Goods exports to the EU reached £16.4 billion in April 2022, their highest level in current prices since the series began in 1997. Imports from EU countries were £0.6 billion higher than from non-EU countries in April 2022
Far being the operative word
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Tell me what you are saying then please
Please take that back.
Or show me where I lied or where I refuted the export data you are pointing to.
I was referring only to the impact of customs issues on small businesses. Perhaps you have the export data for small businesses to justify your post.
Your saying its a drag in growing the UK economy because of the near impossibility of sending mixed load etc.
As I’ve pointed out, our exports to the EU are at their higher than before Brexit.
I am a small business and I trade worldwide. The single market has always benefited the UK the least. Its another reason we left.
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Thanks for your clarification. The point I was making was that small mixed loads is harder and more complex and more expensive now that we are out of the customs union. It is smaller businesses that most often rely on mixed loads and therefore these have been impacted most. No lie there.
I also said that for most economies the smaller businesses that can quickly adapt and grow are often the source of rapid growth. Placing a disadvantage on these small businesses is a self inflicted penalty on both them and the country.
All remains true regardless of the exports for one month.
Now, you seem to imply that the single market benefited the UK least. Why? You perhaps equate poor UK exports with bad EU behaviour. Whereas I’d suggest that poor UK exports is much more to do with poor UK selling into non-English speaking countries. And EU countries having things UK customers want and are willing to pay for.
The value of one month’s exports does not take away from the fact that small, mixed loads are now exceptional difficult to process through customs. So I wonder how much higher these recent export figures would have been if the Brexit agreement had not penalised such exporting. Its great that export figures are high (although with a weak pound you’d hope so). Its a tragedy that Brexit still acts as a depressant on these numbers.
And once again we hear the moaning by Brexit fans that the single market only worked for the EU. This is a facile argument to try to justify them taking us out of the single market and based only on one thing - the UK imported more goods to the EU than it exported. But this is not driven by the single market. This import/export imbalance would (and will) exist when the UK is out of the single market. The single market does not cause this trade deficit. On top of that, the single market favoured the UK’s exporting of services very well. In that sense the single market hugely worked to the benefit of the UK. Where does that fit in with this facile argument that the single market only favoured the EU?