There are many reasons why the world is becoming overpopulated and here are a few of my thoughts…
The medical professions are finding many ways to make us live longer & new ways to assist people, who can’t naturally have babies. People living longer will need more care as they become less able, where previously they would have died.
People having babies often need both parents to work so they can have housing & foods, because most of them also want their children to have all the new things like costly phones, toys and clothes.
I am sure all our parents wanted the same for us, but now they cost more in order to pay salaries to the larger number of employees who make them. Governments wont be able to solve this problem!:roll:
Perhaps we should look at wildlife who will lose some of their young because the more there are, the less food will be available. The older members of their groups, who can’t keep pace with the fitter ones, will probably die at the age they always have.
We all want a good life that lasts longer but, if we continue to stay that way, we will have to accept that our lives will one day become as difficult as some of the children in the Middle East who are now hungry, cold & live in fear of those who want to take the land they live on & even kill them.:surprised:
Whether you believe that climate change is caused by us, or not, it will still happen and more will die, along with all the animals.:shock: Lets hope that any survivors will have learned that we can only have a limited life on earth & life can be happy without all the extras that humans have wanted!
Sorry Twink but I must disagree…
The clip I posted explains that there are not enough babies being born now to sustain the present population…
The problem we are having now won’t be a problem in the future even though mortality rates have gone up, and the reason is, because there are not enough young people to take our places. In other words, the population (especially in the UK) has spiked with our generation, and if birth rates have fallen as the video suggests, then this will follow through and there will be less old people in the next generation.
It’s the old theory of ‘Boom and Bust’ when times were good there were more babies born, and now people would rather spend their money having a good time than raising kids (it has become unfashionable) and when you look at the emphasis on gay marriage, the old fashioned family life, of a hetrosexual couple struggling to raise a family is dying out. Too many distractions in today’s world.
OGF gay people do have children .
I don t agree that people would rather spend money on having a good time than raise children .
My son says he will not have children as the world is too overpopulated as it is .
hid girlfriend seems to agree with this
They don’t spend their money on having a good time most of it goes on paying the rent .
Hi Twink
An excellent post .
I have long thought we will all have to resign ourselves to a lower standard of living .
The planet has long been warning us this present rate of using its resources is completely unsustainable.
The problem, as I see it, is that too many people tend to congregate in the cities. That is understandable in that the cities are where the jobs are. Unfortunately, crowded cities create high rents and mortgages.
In the meantime, as has been mentioned, vast tracts of land go completely unpopulated. I don’t know about the U.K , but in parts of the U.S., it is possible to drive for 120 miles (193 Km) without seeing a single building. I recall seeing a sign by the roadside , in Idaho, which said, “Next gas, 135 miles”.
As far as the earth is considered, we have become too acquisitive. We want and want and want. It seems as if we can never be satisfied with what we have. When luxuries become commonplace, they become necessities.
There was a time, not so long ago, when the average man could support a wife and children and own a home on his income alone. No longer.
Fair point bakerman, but now they have to support two or three cars, the internet, smartphones all round, a new extension or conservatory, sky telly and a couple of weeks in Tenerife or Florida…Did I miss anything out?..Oh yes, gym subscriptions…
Thanks Muddy, if I had to put a one word reason on why we have these problems it would be GREED or Laziness!
Look on the internet and see how many people are trying to persuade us to purchase goods… then think how much power is being used to to market them to the world and transport the items.
Years ago families managed with one wage coming in and many had more than the allotted 2.1 children… but they managed because we were not keeping people alive beyond their normal years. Marketing makes everybody want more, so we need more people to make what they sell…sadly you can’t make things from nothing and that means we are exhausting the earth’s supplies too quickly. These awful weather conditions will reduce food supplies.
I am glad that I lived through good times, because I believe that severe climate change will eventually kill many & restore the world to a lower number of humans…who will have to learn how to live at lower standards… but it may be too late.:!:
I think you got the lot OGF, except the holidays take more than a
couple of weeks now?
I think you’re right about our present old age bubble eventually
passing through the system, and if as you say people are having
less children, ( not sure if thats worldwide though). Then things
should sort themselves out over time??
Donkeyman!
Edit, and all of the above by courteousy ot hire purchase!!
Sorry to disagree with you, Muddy. But 2 men do NOT produce any children. 1 man with the help from a surrogate mother is producing that child. Without the woman, no child is possible.
Have a look at this Donkeyman, although there might be a disproportionate amount of elderly people now, it will not continue. See how birthrates have dropped lower now than at anytime before the second world war.
And notice how older women having babies is increasing while younger women having babies are on the decline, could it be that younger women now don’t want to be held back from both high living (travel etc) and career by being tied down with a child.
If those graphs held good for the third world OGF then there would
be no problem, and cities could be planned instead of squatter camps
etc springing up with absolutely no infrastructure whatever, only a
small stream to serve all their needs including sewage and waste
disposal!!
Donkeyman!
It’s not a proper Mum and Dad though is it Muddy. And the child raised by gays will probably end up being gay itself…I know that lots of people will say “I know a child who was raised by a couple of gays, and they are not gay” but there will always be the exception. I was raised by a loving hetrosexual mum and dad and that’s why I think like I do, so a child raised by a gay couple will accept that as being normal and it isn’t…
Sometimes we have got to accept that the place where some people live is just not suitable for human habitation Donkeyman, and with all the best will in the world, throwing money at it and building pumps is just postponing the inevitable. And in places like that there is nothing else to do for the locals except procreate. The last thing on their minds would be contraception.
I know that sounds cruel but something has got to be done and if life cannot be supported there no amount of help is going to change that. And maybe there are a lot of children born there but mortality rates are very poor…
I can’t agree with that Foxy as there are so many gays who were brought up by heterosexual parents, but are becoming gay by personal choice. Most heterosexual men find it difficult to accept gays, but I don’t think it is prejudice I think is is because they don’t like change.
For many years men were the stronger of the species & many men still try to build muscle to show that they still are, but since women were offered the same levels of education & better same opportunities, women are becoming stronger.
It is a bit like black people fighting to be equal, and the more they achieve it, the more there will be trouble that they call racism! Women will achieve the same and this will make them less attractive to men… so the younger men are using beauty products to be attractive to a sexual partner…often another man!
Women who feel sorry for gays will be happy to be surrogate mothers for them, but the other women will more likely choose to advance their careers.
If we were able to view in a 100 years time, we may find a very different world where women prefer power to being maternal. Maybe this is another way of reducing the world population. if it happens.:!:
Looking back, I chose not to have children in my teens & never changed my mind…even though I like children. Maybe I was ahead of my time>:confused:
It’s fast becoming normal to be gay. I’m not sure normal is the right word. I rather say ‘it wasn’t meant to be like this’ if men were meant to have sex with men, men would be able to have babies. Man and woman are and were meant to have sex with each other to reproduce.
That’s how I see it anyway. It has and always will make me cringe when I think of a man sticking his oojah up another mans bottom where pooh comes from. Sorry for my bluntness but I’m only saying it as it is. Does this mean I’m homophobic? I don’t think so, but if someone wants to view me as that then so be it.
