Anyone done Metal Detecting or Mudlarking

@Eliza , I’ve watched a few YouTube videos made by a pair of Mudlarkers and found them quite fascinating.
One of them was a night-time session of Mudlarking along the edge of The Thames using head torches - I think I would have found that scary to do but the man and woman who were doing it seemed to have no qualms about it.

After each session, the video continued back in their studios, where you saw some of the items they had found previously and what they had done with them.
Some items, which looked interesting but had no individual monetary value, were incorporated into creative pieces of artwork.

I remember being taught in my primary school about children who lived in poverty in the Victorian era, who worked as Mudlarks along the banks of The Thames, looking for items they could sell to earn money for food.
It sounded like a disgusting and unhygienic environment for those poor kids to be wading through.

I didn’t realise that people went Mudlarking for pleasure nowadays, until a friend of mine told me he had been with a group of friends on a guided Mudlarking exploration, which was organised by The Thames Explorer Trust.
It costs £25 for a ticket and the money raised goes towards school education programmes.

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I don’t think that metal detecting and mudlarking is all about profit. Although a few quid from some findings would be nice, the historical value and story behind the finds would be more important and interesting.

Not done metal detecting or mudlarking but - as both sets of grandparents lived near the sea - I spent a lot of early dawns out beachcombing as a child. Found several rings and other small pieces of jewellery - and lots of coins. Always gave the jewellery to the police. The coins usually found their way into the nearby slot machines!

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I saw the title and thought is Mudlarking larking about in mud preferably naked and with ladies? :rofl: :rofl:

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The pair that I follow on Youtube are Nicola White , she shows her finds in a studio back home and she makes art from the finds , even bits of broken glass are made into fish pictures and sold , the other one I follow is Si-finds , he was the one that found this Roman vase , he too sells his finds on Etsy .
I looked it up about Victorian Mudlarks and it was news to me , part of history I knew nothing about .

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Yes, Nicola White and Simon Bourne are the two I have watched on You Tube video too.
I love the way Nicola uses some of the things she picks up to create works of art.

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Forgot to mention - I also find sea glass and driftwood - which I use to make jewellery.

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yes Sea Glass is really nice ,I first found some on the Pendine Beach in Wales , the Sea had rounded the edge, I can imagine it makes lovely Jewllery.

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A story about one of Simon Bourne’s “finds” that I found interesting

Mudlarker, Simon Bourne, returns Nathan Posener’s RFC dogtag he found in Thames.

Simon was having what he describes as an average day on the foreshore when a fellow mudlarker, Jules, called him over to witness a Dutch coin he had just pulled from the mud.

The two then turned over a slab of concrete, scraped back the sand and discovered a French silver coin with the image of woman—Marrianne, representing Liberty. Two holes had been drilled through, so it had probably been worn on a chain, they assumed.

“The reverse side was polished flat and had an engraving that took my breath away,” Simon recalls.

“It bore a winged logo that read ‘RFC’ - N Posener - 19385 - Jew.

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“We were both stunned and excited by the silver coin turned into a military identity tag. The Thames had preserved the inscription well.”

The RFC, or Royal Flying Corps, was the forerunner of the RAF and was created during the 1914-18 Great War.

Simon searched the National Archives which confirmed Posener’s ID number and that he served between 1918 and 1928. The 1911 census had Nathan Posener living at 292 Commercial Road.

“That address was close to where I found his dog tag,” Simon added.

“He and his father were tailors. But what happened to him after that, when war was over?”

The curious mudlarker contacted the East London Advertiser, hoping any relative or old friends might still be in the area.

“I didn’t have to wait long for a response once the story was printed and put online,” he revealed. “The reporter who ran the story phoned me after two weeks saying a reader had recognised the surname Posener. He got in touch with his friend John Silverman, the grandson of Nathan Posener.

“What’s more, his mother, Nathan’s daughter Teresa, was still alive at 90!”

Simon’s year-long mission was over. On a warm summer’s evening, he finally met Nathan Posener’s grandson in north London and returned his dog tag.

“It was a great feeling returning something that had been ‘lost’ for so many years,” Simon admits. “John by chance had spent a year researching his own family tree and the dogtag would take pride of place in his collection of memorabilia.”

Nathan was a Master tailor called up to design and sew the leather and fabric outer membrane of those early flying machines, the family told him.

He served in France on the Western Front which is probably why he used a French Franc for his dogtag that he crafted himself. He had industrial tailoring needles to work with and the creative skills of a Master tailor, perhaps hiring a jeweller to engrave it.

But the mudlarker still wonders how Nathan Posener’s Royal Flying Corp dogtag ended up in the Thames at Limehouse.

“The most romantic theory perhaps is that he threw it in after returning from the war, for whatever reason,” he says.

Nathan survived the Great War and lived to 94. He died in March 1987 in Hampstead where his daughter, now 90, lives today.

The dog tag has gone through a lot, Simon points out, from the battles on the Western Front to Nathan’s home in the Commercial Road, then churned around in the Thames mud for 90 years.

But returning it ‘home’ is something he appreciates few mudlarking ‘treasure hunters’ ever get the chance to do.

Full story with photos here

[Mudlarker Simon returns Nathan Posener’s RFC dogtag he found in Thames | East London Advertiser]

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But I don’t suppose you give that jewellery to the police, do you? :slightly_smiling_face:

Thats what appeals to me the story behind the find ,Im a Family Historian and have more interest in the stories i find , rather than just the Census.
That was a good bit of detective work on Simons part .

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There are lots of Mudlarking groups on Facebook. The idea fascinates me, and I often wish I had known about it when I was much younger, and living near the east coast. It’s something I probably would have got involved in with a group of friends.

I have also thought about using a metal detector in our garden - the house is 120 years old and the whole area is built on the site of an early Victorian mill.

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No need for a Metal detector Sheba , you may find something by just digging a Test pit like what they do on Time Team ,you can always fill it in again if you find nothing .

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@Boot - What a wonderful heartwarming story!

No - not stuff I have made myself. Always handed over found jewellery though because I thought the owner/s might be upset at losing it.

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Me too - historian and archiavist - addictive, isn’t it? :smiley_cat: :smiley_cat:

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It is ive boxes full of folders with certs in and stories ive collected from news papers .

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Again - me too! Very chequered family history - mother’s lot all very respectable Irish upper middle class - father’s lot English working class - and a right lot of rogues!
Lovable ones though!

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A spot of mudlarking some years back when the Thames was drained tween Richmond and Teddington. Found a few marble bottles and some other odds n sods until the authorities shouted at us to get out or become mud bound.

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Another quite amusing and interesting YouTube hobby is magnet fishing which seems related to this hobby.

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Ha yes Bruce. We are surrounded by canals here, and as well as the towpaths making excellent places for a good flat walk, they also attract fisherpersons ? and magnet fisherpersons. During my walks I often see supermarket trolleys, prams, and old rusty bike frames left on the bank waiting for the council to take them away. I think they also use grappling hooks as well. As you get closer to the town centre they have recovered guns, knives and even the occasional body… :astonished: