I do not own a smartphone and have no wish to become phone dependant. My small and very convenient dumb flip-phone has all I need from my on-the-go music files + radio to a camera should I ever need one. Had it connected to the internet, then I would have not bought it.
I like to listen to audiobooks - mostly true stories of things which have occurred in the past. The narration has to be pleasant though, and lively… I used to listen to a knitting podcast (Lime & Violet) from years ago, which was interesting and funny, but I don’t really know many podcasts recently.
I can’t listen to anything while falling asleep though, it has to be during the day when I’m in the garden or outside.
My little flip-phone has an MP3 player via its memory card, but how would the podcast load without the internet; not that a podcast would interest me🤷♂️