A different Viewpoint on Carers

All this business about Carers being sacked if they refuse the full course of vaccinations, then along came a different viewpoint altogether.
It was in Sunday’s paper. What do you think about this employer’s views?
It’s from a chap who runs two care homes in Wales.

Quote:
A care home boss says he would “rather go to court than sack staff.”
He says he also plans to poach staff sacked from English care homes too.

He said: "We’re the only place where this new ridiculous policy isn’t being introduced. If it came in here, in Wales, we’d lose a good chunk of staff and frankly, I’d rather go to court for their freedom than sack them.
"Last year these were the people we were clapping as heroes. They deserve support, not exclusion.
"The people they’re looking after are double vaccinated. But my vaccinated staff can still transmit the virus, which actually happened last month, so it makes no sense at all.
“This policy discriminates against someone who doesn’t want to have it for health, ethical or religious reasons.”

The Care Quality Commission can take action against homes employing unvaccinated staff without a medical exemption and also use both civil and criminal powers to punish offenders.

I wonder how he will get on if this sacking policy is implemented in Wales too . . .

I would not want to see any loved one in his care home .
Care homes have a responsibility of care that is what they are paid huge amounts of money to do . The priority is the patients not the staff .

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There is always someone ready to breach a law. We had businesses during lockdown who continued to try & trade. We had them after we went metric, selling us a pound of bananas or spuds.

I wonder if any chimney sweeps still use children?

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But don’t forget he did say that one of the elderly people in care still got Covid, even though his staff are vaccinated and so are the residents.

In a way I can see what he means because unless visitors/family are completely banned again, there will always be a risk to residents.

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There seems to be a misconception that having the Covid jabs prevents you from getting it, it doesn’t, it means you shouldn’t get it so bad you need to be hospitalised, if you think about it, the person in greatest danger is the one who doesn’t get jabbed especially as they don’t get sick pay, the industry is struggling to recruit and retain staff, so the danger to residents comes from not having enough staff to look after the residents properly, everyone clapped for the nhs ( rightly so) but carers were completely forgotten

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Exactly how much risk is there to fully vaccinated residents from unvaccinated staff? I don’t know the answer to that, and certainly wouldn’t offer an opinion on the matter until I did.

Vaccination . doesn’t prevent transmission but it does reduce the viral load ,

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Visitors and family will have to show they are vaccinated too .

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Knowing that carers weren’t required to be vaccinated, would any insurance company cover him and his business?

No responsible relatives would put their loved ones in a place like that… would they?

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In some ways, I tend to agree with him. If I owned and ran such an establishment, I would first consult the care home’s residents; after all said and done, it is the residents who are at the shop floor level so to speak.

So there will be no ‘duty of care’ operating in the care home?

If the residents so wished, then that would be their decision and I would operate to their wishes; that’s the way democracy works.

A ‘Duty of care’ is a legal obligation that he would have to adhere to.

Not if the owner had signed waivers from the residents, which would be required.

Well said!

That risk however, should never come from the ones who care for you. Family may visit for a short while, but staff in there for the duration of a shift and this is everyday. When it comes to the elderly in homes I would personally feel better knowing everything was done to protect them.

Exactly!! It reduces possible death to a cold or flu level. You know it could be 30 below zero and there is still going to be a minority that says it’s not cold enough for a coat.

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I guess the consideration should also be whether reduced numbers of carers are a health risk.

A home cannot operate without enough staff, they can be closed or certainly put on special measures by CQC

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Exactly!