World War II box set

Unless they are on the enemy side … people always forget they were on a Nazi German side

Again I was thinking about living politicians. Out of the lot we have now.

First let me say that I’m not a fan of Boris.

I think he’s playing a very clever game and it seems to be working nicely if he is too.
From completely wrong-footing the EU prior to the December deadline to showing their requirements regarding Ireland/NI to be unworkable and - of course - the vaccine saga he’s managed to keep the UK one step ahead in quite a few ways.
I know some don’t see it like that and fair enough but I do, and certain things like Ireland/NI are far from settled yet.

Why make yourself look like a troublemaker to get what the country really needs when the EU are being slowly but surely forced into doing it themselves and in doing so are making themselves look incompetent to boot?
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We should have had somebody like him right from the start but I agree with Annie & feel in some ways quite sorry for the bloke.
He has indeed been dealt a bad hand and I’d be surprised if he lasts much beyond the next General Election even if the Tories win it.
How history will remember Boris probably depends upon these next few years.

As for WW2 I don’t think that there are any of our current crop including Boris that would have been capable of doing what those at the time did, far less could they have done any better.

I really don’t think that Rees-Mogg or Redwood are strong enough.
Who is left that’s seriously worthy of consideration?

Jacob Reece-Mogg’s pretty good.

Not the Italian general public. They wanted to remain neutral but Benito Mussolini forced them to join his mate Adolf.
We hear stories of thousands of Italian troops surrendering to just a handful of Allied soldiers in North Africa. Right from the beginning they wanted to take no part in wars.

I’ve only fairly recently read an Italian’s experiences during WW2 and it seems to me that Italians were doing like almost anybody would do and were looking out for No.1.

Italian politics however is another thing and it’s always been chaotic.
That’s how Mussolini managed to gain power as Prime Minister back in 1922.
Even now though Italian politics is unpredictable and fractious with Mario Draghi recently being sworn in as the new prime minister of Italy, taking over from the Giuseppe Conte who was pretty much forced to resign.

Surely the same is true for the French or any other country? But the French always get a bashing on here.

With very good reason. The French are historically our enemies.

What is this post about? WW2 as at at the start or comparing politics of today with politics of 70 years ago? (No comparison whatsoever)

Agree 100% AT.

Until the tide began to turn. Then they quickly decided to change sides! :lol:

By certain people they do.
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Historically as AT says they might well have been our enemies and certainly there are those in France who hate to see us in the UK do well, but most everyday French people are just the same as we are and are easygoing until riled.

I don’t get the historical enemies stuff.
Especially when even England was historically a tribal place and never mind some of the other parts of the union.
Where do you stop?
The Vikings?
The Romans?
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We have none of the calibre of Thatcher and Churchill, sadly.

Unless someone appears out of nowhere. It is just possible!

I agree.

Indeed. And still are!

They’re not my enemy.
The French and us Scots have always got along quite well.
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The Scots have traditionally gotten along well with pretty much everyone apart from the English.

Mussolini sent thousands of Italian troops to fight in North Africa before Rommel came along and helped him out.
Italian troops surrendered in their droves because they did not want war neither did 90% of the German people in 1939.
Would one man be able to decide his country,s future today as one man could and did then?

I think that William the Bastard and the invasion of England in 1066 was probably pivotal.

Oh yes. The Auld Alliance with France.

I’m sure that stems from Henry VIII and the conversion to the Church of England.

The Scots didn’t like that.

Strangely, though, although there are now Scots who are both Catholic and Protestant, many of them still resent the English!