Tory MP Chris Pincher resigns over groping allegations; Tamworth by-election will take place today

I disagree.
The Carlton Club used to be The Conservative Central Office and although they have moved their Central Office, the Club is still used for political discussions in a social setting.
Membership of The Carlton Club almost goes hand in hand with the job of being a Tory MP, so it’s rather like an extension of their workplace, with Ministers, MPs and Party Managers gathering there for political discussions.

People should not have to put up with being groped by drunks, just because it’s a private members club.
Members still have to obey the law and behave decently or they deserve to be called out on their behaviour and deal with the consequences.

The former Prime Minister Arthur Balfour was a reluctant member of the The Carlton Club, complaining of the club in the early 1900s.

“The Carlton is a beastly club… but it must be suffered like long hours and constituents as a necessary though disagreeable accompaniment of a political career.”

(My answer to the other two complaints he made would be - if you don’t like the hours or dealing with Constituents, don’t stand for election as an MP!)

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It was just a throwaway comment Boot. But these private clubs do seem to conjour up a sleazy picture from what has gone off in the past…
:flushed:

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All the more reason for calling out the sleazy or lawless behaviour and driving it out, instead of continuing to cover it up, I’d say!

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You will never drive it out Boot, it might go quiet for a while but when all the ingredients come together…(money, power, and an ageing group of men) it will inevitably happen. It always has, but now the media can capitalise on it better.

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I don’t think you will ever stop humans behaving badly but if we take the attitude that we’ll never stop it so why bother to investigate it and hold people to account for their bad behaviour, it sends the message that it’s OK.

That is how all those paedophiles got away with abusing kids in chiidren’s homes for so long because nobody wanted to stand up and speak out.

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like on here too

I think that might deserve a thread on it’s own Boot. I don’t think it’s relevant with Mr Pincher.
How else would he find consenting adults if he didn’t touch a few up occasionally. Not all of them would have complained.

I hope this was meant as a terrible joke and not actually serious?

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Former Conservative MP for Tamworth Chris Pincher quit as deputy chief whip in June amid allegations he sexually assaulted two guests at a London club.

He is under investigation by the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards, Kathryn Stone. She opened the probe citing allegations of “actions causing significant damage to the reputation of the House”.

Mr Pincher quit his government role on 30 June after allegedly assaulting fellow guests at the Carlton Club venue the evening before.

… and BJ’s downfall began … :roll_eyes:

A regular occurrence, now. Boring.

Not all “occurrences” bring down a Prime Minister and, thereby, precipitate a national financial crisis caused by his successor.

Indeed, the sleazy stories about them are.
Conservative MP David Warburton.
Conservative MP Imran Ahmad Khan.
Ex-Conservative MP Charlie Elphicke.
Labour MP Chris Matheson.

The media can capitalise on it better.
@OldGreyFox Allegations have to be reported responsibly, at least until an arrest and charged.

None of them were Prime Minister.

Boris has not been charged? Misconduct in public office is an offence, plenty of allegations, has a long history of sailing close to the wind and gets away with it.

Parliament’s standards watchdog is to publish the findings of an inquiry into groping allegations against former government whip Chris Pincher on Thursday, the BBC has been told. The report could lead to a by-election in his constituency, if a suspension of more than 10 days is agreed. Sources familiar with the process said they expected the punishment to meet the threshold for a recall petition.

The Standards Committee’s report on the investigation is expected to be published at 09:00 on Thursday. The sanction recommended by the committee will have to be agreed by MPs.

The report follows an investigation by the Parliamentary Standards Commissioner over allegations of “actions causing significant damage to the reputation of the House”.

Mr Pincher currently sits as an independent member in the House of Commons.

That is because he had the Conservative whip removed when a formal complaint about him was made to the standards commissioner, which examines reports of bullying, harassment and sexual misconduct.

Recall for Pincher … :079:

In its report, the Standards Committee has recommended an eight week suspension, triggering a recall petition in Mr Pincher’s Tamworth constituency - if 10% of voters sign it, a by-election is called.

He would still be allowed to stand, but having announced he plans to step down at the next election anyway, it seems unlikely.

Harsh … but fair … :neutral_face:

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak is already facing three by-elections on 20 July after Mr Johnson, Nigel Adams and David Warburton announced their resignations from parliament last month.

A fourth is also expected for former culture secretary Nadine Dorries’ seat, as she has promised to resign.

It never rains but it pours … :umbrella:

After what he’s been up to, Mr Pincher is very well named! :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes: :rofl:

MPs had been due to vote on whether to approve the eight-week punishment. However, this will not take place until the appeal of Mr Pincher - who now sits as an independent MP - is complete.

His appeal will be heard by the Independent Expert Panel, an independent body which does not include any MPs.

If his appeal fails, MPs will then vote on whether to approve his eight-week suspension.

The Treasury’s annual report, published on Thursday, revealed that Mr Pincher received a £7,920 severance payment after his resignation as deputy chief whip.

Another scrounger hanging on to amass as much “loot” as he can … :roll_eyes:

In its report, Parliament’s conduct watchdog said the former Conservative deputy chief whip’s behaviour amounted to an abuse of power. The decision means a by-election in his Tamworth seat is a step closer.

MPs will now vote on whether to approve the eight-week punishment. The move is normally a formality and, if approved, would trigger a recall petition which could lead to a by-election.

An inquiry was launched into the behaviour of the Tamworth MP last year following an incident at the private members Carlton Club in central London.

Parliament’s standards commissioner Daniel Greenberg found that Mr Pincher groped a then-employee of the House of Lords on his arm and neck, before groping his bottom. He also found that he groped a civil servant’s bottom and then groped his testicles.

Tut, tut … :018: