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there seems to be a “sense of morality” of course in all of this - we expect the Queen to be highly moral and thank God she is but she has much to contend with lower down the household scale ! - we expected our democratically MP’s to carry a moral code about their work and even in their private lives - but they cannot attain the high level of the Queen - oops and I should have popped the Church in there heh - with the Queen as the sort of head their among all the other long hatted ones - yes the church through the land whether catholic or CofE is expected to set a high moral code and is sometimes sadly found wanting - the rest of us well there are school teachers of course and all the other professions - so were does it all go wrong??
Its just Folks gumbo, they know not what they do. 
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Hi
I think you misunderstand where many are coming from on this subject.
There are only around 650 MPs out a nation of around 60 Million, yet it is just one scandal after another.
Nobody expects them to be faultless, they are human after all, well mostly.
They make the laws and lecture us on them but live in a different world where the same laws do not apply to them.
Bullying Staff, excuse, I was drunk.
That is not an excuse, being drunk at work is a reason for instant dismissal.
They are paid a decent wage, plus, and it is a very big tax free plus, expenses.
They complain about the short working hours of teachers and the long holidays they have.
MPs have longer holidays than teachers and their working hours are a joke, they include time spent drinking in the HoC Members Bars, they only have to wanger out when there is a Division Bell and even then they need Whips to point them into the right queue.
They enjoy huge subsidies on the wines in the House of Commons, yet expect nurses to pay for parking.
They have second jobs, which often pay more than their MPs Salary,
How many teachers do you know who have the time to take second jobs which pay more than their salary?
They are exempt from the discrimination laws about employing the best Candidate for the job.
They can appointment wives, husbands, partners to well paid jobs, paid by the taxpayer without even having to go througth an Interview system.
It is a joke, it really is.
It is also very annoying.
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Hi
Returning now to the OP.
Unwanted groping, of a male or female Enforcement Officer, is not going to met by nervous complaints or trauma.
It will be met by a return groping of testicles, designed to see what is the maximum pressure of the gropers bits before they scream in agony and require medical attention.
The ladies are far more ruthless on this than the men, because we can imagine the pain.
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The have the cheek to refer to themselves as “honourable gentlemen of the house” 
There are so many reports in the media with regard to women being groped by men, men being groped by men, men being groped by women ( lucky buggers)
I feel sort of deprived…as a child I was never molested by a teacher, a Boy Scout leader, the lady down at the corner sweet shop, nobody asked me if I wanted to see their puppies or share a ‘ special secret’.
As an adult things were pretty much the same, Bondage Becky slipped her hand into my pocket in a boozer in Canada…nothing sexual, my wallet was in that pocket….i wonder where I have gone wrong and why I am not getting my share.
Worried of Birmingham
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This is the reason for my ‘blase-ness’ Pixie…This sort of thing has been going on for years in that den of iniquity, think the Profumo Affair etc. Here is a list of various scandals that have rocked Westminster over the years…
List of political scandals in the United Kingdom
Not all sexual I hasten to add…
In a strongly-worded letter to the parliamentary standards commissioner, Lord McDonald has disputed No 10’s version of events.
Lord McDonald, who was the Foreign Office’s most senior civil servant from 2015 to 2020, said that in the summer of 2019, a group of officials had “complained to me about Mr Pincher’s behaviour”.
“In substance, the allegations were similar to those made about his behaviour at the Carlton Club.”
He said an investigation upheld the complaint adding that: “Mr Pincher apologised and promised not to repeat the inappropriate behaviour.”
“Mr Johnson was briefed in person about the initiation and outcome of the investigation,” he added.
Lord McDonald, the former top civil servant in the Foreign Office, has written to the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards Kathryn Stone over No 10’s statements on MP Chris Pincher, who last week resigned as a Conservative whip and was then suspended as a party MP over allegations he groped two men at a private members’ club in London.
Here is the letter in full:
Dear Ms Stone,
The RT Hon Christopher Pincher MP
Five days after Mr Pincher’s resignation as deputy chief whip, there remains significant confusion surrounding complaints about his behaviour prior to the drunkenness he admits at the Carlton Club on 29 June.
Inaccurate claims by 10 Downing Street continue to be repeated in the media. On 3 July, the BBC website reported: “No official complaints against [Mr Pincher] were ever made.”
This is not true. In the summer of 2019, shortly after he was appointed minister of state at the Foreign Office, a group of officials complained to me about Mr Pincher’s behaviour. I discussed the matter with the relevant official at the Cabinet Office. (In substance, the allegations were similar to those made about his behaviour at the Carlton Club.) An investigation upheld the complaint; Mr Pincher apologised and promised not to repeat the inappropriate behaviour. There was no repetition at the FCO before he left seven months later.
The same BBC website report continued: “Downing Street has said Boris Johnson was not aware of any specific allegations when he appointed Mr Pincher deputy chief whip in February.” By 4 July the BBC website reflected a change in No 10’s line: “The prime minister’s official spokesman said Mr Johnson knew of ‘allegations that were either resolved or did not progress to a formal complaint,’ adding that ‘it was deemed not appropriate to stop an appointment simply because of unsubstantiated allegations’.”
The original No 10 line is not true and the modification is still not accurate. Mr Johnson was briefed in person about the initiation and outcome of the investigation. There was a “formal complaint”. Allegations were “resolved” only in the sense that the investigation was completed; Mr Pincher was not exonerated. To characterise the allegations as “unsubstantiated” is therefore wrong.
I am aware that [it] is unusual to write to you and simultaneously publicise the letter. I am conscious of the duty owed to the target of an investigation but I act out of my duty towards the victims. Mr Pincher deceived me and others in 2019. He cannot be allowed to use the confidentiality of the process three years ago to pursue his predatory behaviour in other contexts.
Yours sincerely,
Simon
McDonald of Salford
Permanent under-Secretary
Foreign & Commonwealth Office
(2015-2020)
BIB - my highlighting.
Is this the proverbial cat amongst the pigeons … 
It comes down to yet MORE lies from Johnson. It’s now so common that the shock and horror that should follow finding the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom is a bare faced liar is lost. Most of us have come to expect such behaviour from him. What an awful state of affairs that is.
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Poor you, perhaps you’re ugly? 
Not really, I don’t mean it, I’m sure you’re hot stuff 
It’s brill that people don’t have to put up with this sort of stuff nowadays 
But what is a sexual assault has changed since our day?
If a bit of unwanted grabbing, fondling or dirty talk is sexual assault, then I’ve been assaulted many, many times
But you used to deal with it yourself, with a whack or shove or a few expletives and I didn’t feel particularly traumatised
Horrible of course if it was a boss or a teacher or some abusing their power because they thought you couldn’t complain and would just have to take it
And I’m not defending Pinchy Pincher or the other Dirty Berties and Gerties in any way
Abuse can be soul destroying and they deserve max punishment, especially if it’s someone abusing their position or bullying
But, I can’t help it, part of me wonders if, just sometimes, some people claiming to be “victims” are building up their part a bit and making a big fuss over not much
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The headlines are specific - No 10 lied:
In this case the two guys groped were parliamentary interns. To have reacted in an appropriate way at the time would have seriously affected their professional career prospects. The Fat Oaf was well aware of the character of Pincher - and lied about it. Borris Johnson HAS to go.
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I am…in another place and time I would have been a god, my dear wife is so proud (and lucky ) to have a trophy husband. 
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Hi
Exactly right AT.
So you could be accurately described as arm candy? 
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Cabinet Office Minister Michael Ellis is set to make a statement in the Commons at 12:30 BST
He will face questions from Labour’s deputy leader Angela Rayner about what the PM knew of Chris Pincher’s behaviour
What a lovely phrase, consider it nicked, indeed I am
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